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Re: Latest employment data

Postby FSK » Tue Apr 14, 2015 3:29 pm

pamphleteer wrote:
flawschoolkid wrote:
JFO1833 wrote:GW is in:

22: George Washington - BL+FC-32%, FTLTBR-79%, FTLTBR (w/o LSF)-65%
http://www.law.gwu.edu/Careers/prospect ... a_2014.pdf

Also:

149: Oklahoma City - BL+FC-2%, FTLTBR-58%, FTLTBR (w/o LSF)-58%
RNP: Elon - BL+FC-3%, FTLTBR-38%, FTLTBR (w/o LSF)-38%


GW remains a trap school and is down from previous years. As expected, in light of increasing class sizes + transfer class sizes. Expect this trend to worsen.


Don't they take like 50 transfers from American alone? In light of that, 32% BLFC placement isn't bad. Not saying GW is worth attending in most cases as they're stingy with scholarships and are located in a very high COL area.


They took 100 transfers this year total.

Also skewed with IPSECURE self selection.

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby Finalfan » Tue Apr 14, 2015 3:32 pm

32% is very good for GW given their class size.

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby thisiswater » Tue Apr 14, 2015 3:34 pm

where are the 2013 numbers coming from?

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby JFO1833 » Tue Apr 14, 2015 3:37 pm

Again no solos

RNP: Northern Illinois - BL+FC-2%, FTLTBR-59%, FTLTBR (w/o LSF)-58%
RNP: Touro - BL+FC-0%, FTLTBR-55%, FTLTBR (w/o LSF)-55%
RNP: Western New England - BL+FC-2%, FTLTBR-36%, FTLTBR (w/o LSF)-36%

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby LET'S GET IT » Tue Apr 14, 2015 3:38 pm

AT9 wrote:
And wow @ Stanford's clerkship numbers and Georgetown's FTLTBR non LSF numbers. It truly is in a class with UT, Vandy, UCLA, USC, and maybe WUSTL. Is there a catchy name for that group?


The new distinctions should be T13 and T18 instead of T14 and T20.

Not catchy, but practical and should be a thing. Also I realize this leaves out USC, but it's the best I can come up with.
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Re: Latest employment data

Postby JFO1833 » Tue Apr 14, 2015 3:50 pm

Vandy is in:

17: Vanderbilt - BL+FC-41%, FTLTBR-85%, FTLTBR (w/o LSF)-73%

See post below for fixed link.
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Re: Latest employment data

Postby Sachem » Tue Apr 14, 2015 3:51 pm


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Re: Latest employment data

Postby arklaw13 » Tue Apr 14, 2015 3:52 pm

JFO1833 wrote:Vandy is in:

17: Vanderbilt - BL+FC-41%, FTLTBR-85%, FTLTBR (w/o LSF)-73%
https://law.vanderbilt.edu/2014-EmploymentSummary.pdf


Well that's dosappointing. Holy hell at those school-funded numbers.

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby JFO1833 » Tue Apr 14, 2015 3:55 pm

SMU is in:

46: SMU - BL+FC-23%, FTLTBR-67%, FTLTBR (w/o LSF)-67%
http://www.law.smu.edu/Career-Services/ ... stics.aspx

It can be tricky to read their table, it's in a non-standard format.

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby AT9 » Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:07 pm

arklaw13 wrote:
JFO1833 wrote:Vandy is in:

17: Vanderbilt - BL+FC-41%, FTLTBR-85%, FTLTBR (w/o LSF)-73%
https://law.vanderbilt.edu/2014-EmploymentSummary.pdf


Well that's dosappointing. Holy hell at those school-funded numbers.


Kinda surprised Vandy dropped a little given that other southern T1 schools seemed to be doing alright. Over 10% fed clerkship isn't bad, though.

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby storpappa » Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:08 pm

BrazilBandit wrote:https://www.law.stanford.edu/sites/default/files/child-page/351563/doc/slspublic/ABA%20Stats%20-%202014%20-%204-6-15.pdf

Stanford is out!


At Stanford, they include the %'s, because bitches ... just because

At Stanford, they use *, ** and *** because bitches ... just because

*JD Advantage: 3 policy positions; 2 consulting.  
** Professional Position: 1 tech co. founder, 2 biz
dev positons, 1 investment banker, and 1 Board
executive.  
***both graduates pursuing PhDs
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Re: Latest employment data

Postby tincan678 » Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:09 pm

Was 2014 employment data used in the 2016 USNWR rankings? If not, Michigan's rank could drop even further next year because Michigan increased its number of school funded jobs this year... the same year that US News changed its methodology to punish schools for school-funded jobs.

http://www.usnews.com/education/blogs/c ... s-rankings

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby cal2013 » Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:10 pm

Baylor is in:

56: Baylor - BL+FC- 11%, FTLTBR-68%, FTLTBR (w/o LSF)-68%

http://www.baylor.edu/content/services/ ... 242557.pdf

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby Winston1984 » Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:12 pm

tincan678 wrote:Was 2014 employment data used in the 2016 USNWR rankings? If not, Michigan's rank could drop even further next year because Michigan increased its number of school funded jobs this year... the same year that US News changed its methodology to punish schools for school-funded jobs.

http://www.usnews.com/education/blogs/c ... s-rankings

No. They use the previous year's data.

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby AT9 » Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:13 pm

tincan678 wrote:Was 2014 employment data used in the 2016 USNWR rankings? If not, Michigan's rank could drop even further next year because Michigan increased its number of school funded jobs this year... the same year that US News changed its methodology to punish schools for school-funded jobs.

http://www.usnews.com/education/blogs/c ... s-rankings


No, they used 2013 data.

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby MikeJD » Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:16 pm

tincan678 wrote:Was 2014 employment data used in the 2016 USNWR rankings? If not, Michigan's rank could drop even further next year because Michigan increased its number of school funded jobs this year... the same year that US News changed its methodology to punish schools for school-funded jobs.

http://www.usnews.com/education/blogs/c ... s-rankings



Schools are not being punished for hiring their own grads, they are just not being rewarded as much.

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby WeeBey » Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:17 pm

Who thinks Columbia is gonna break 80%?

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby MikeJD » Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:20 pm

arklaw13 wrote:
JFO1833 wrote:Vandy is in:

17: Vanderbilt - BL+FC-41%, FTLTBR-85%, FTLTBR (w/o LSF)-73%
https://law.vanderbilt.edu/2014-EmploymentSummary.pdf


Well that's dosappointing. Holy hell at those school-funded numbers.



So still behind GT despite a very small class size.

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby hoos89 » Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:22 pm

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby JFO1833 » Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:23 pm

Only 40 schools left to report:

4: Columbia
15: Texas
22: Iowa
26: Boston University
34: Boston College
42: Utah
52: Temple
52: Tennessee
56: Georgia State
59: Missouri
63: Connecticut
67: Kansas
67: Oklahoma
71: San Diego
78: Brooklyn
82: Hawaii
82: Oregon
87: St. Louis
94: Louisiana State
94: West Virginia
102: Indiana (McKinney)
110: Howard
113: CUNY
113: Drake
127: Chapman
135: Arkansas-Little Rock
142: William Mitchell
149: Southern Illinois
149: Texas A&M
RNP: Atlanta's John Marshall
RNP: Campbell
RNP: Detroit Mercy
RNP: Faulkner
RNP: Inter-American
RNP: New England Law
RNP: North Carolina Central
RNP: Southern University
RNP: St. Mary's
RNP: Texas Southern
UNR: Belmont

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby BrazilBandit » Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:23 pm

thisiswater wrote:where are the 2013 numbers coming from?


ABA Employment Outcomes Summaries

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby docdoc » Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:24 pm

arklaw13 wrote:
JFO1833 wrote:Vandy is in:

17: Vanderbilt - BL+FC-41%, FTLTBR-85%, FTLTBR (w/o LSF)-73%
https://law.vanderbilt.edu/2014-EmploymentSummary.pdf


Well that's dosappointing. Holy hell at those school-funded numbers.


Well, fuck.

I'd still like to know what the school funded jobs actually entail.

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby Dafaq » Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:25 pm

Updating the TOP TEN SFJ schools.

1. Emory (19.4%);
2. USC (14.3%);
3. UC-Irving (14.0%);
4. George Washington (13.4%);
5. Notre Dame (12.3%);
6. Vanderbilt (11.3%);
7. UC-Davis (11.2%);
8. Georgetown (10.2%);
9. UVA (9.5%);
10. UCLA (9.2%)

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby AT9 » Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:26 pm

MikeJD wrote:
arklaw13 wrote:
JFO1833 wrote:Vandy is in:

17: Vanderbilt - BL+FC-41%, FTLTBR-85%, FTLTBR (w/o LSF)-73%
https://law.vanderbilt.edu/2014-EmploymentSummary.pdf


Well that's dosappointing. Holy hell at those school-funded numbers.



So still behind GT despite a very small class size.


They have a much smaller class size but they're also not in one of the biggest legal markets in the world. Plus, just glancing at LST, these numbers seem to be about average for them over the last few years. I wouldn't expect them to surpass GT in placement in any year (much less consistently) unless the southern legal markets really start booming.

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby skers » Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:26 pm

hoos89 wrote:GWU should be #2 assuming your percentages are right.


how about we all run this joke into the ground more.




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