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Re: Latest employment data

Postby rpupkin » Thu Apr 09, 2015 3:44 pm

Cobretti wrote:
BigZuck wrote:Doesn't matter, UCLA/USC are regional schools and rankings after the T14 are insignificant. I'm sticking with this unless another school decides to shit the bed/pull a Yale:
HS
CCNP
DCN
B
V
GM
U(T)
Y

doesn't have G/G, these rankings are a farse

Also these tiers are rife with "C" and "N" ambiguity. I consider that a strength. It lets the reader come up with his own interpretation.

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby twenty 8 » Thu Apr 09, 2015 3:46 pm

Not sure if SFJ was around in my day (not that long ago). For those schools that hand out SFJ to those not offered ... how does the school choose who receives a SFJ and who doesn’t? Lottery, grades or ... ?

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby jenesaislaw » Thu Apr 09, 2015 4:38 pm

twenty 8 wrote:Not sure if SFJ was around in my day (not that long ago). For those schools that hand out SFJ to those not offered ... how does the school choose who receives a SFJ and who doesn’t? Lottery, grades or ... ?


Depends on the type of SFJ. I think at a lot of schools it's like an entitlement program. If you qualify (you're unemployed), you get it if you can find a place to work that meets the criteria.

The SFJ that look more like fellowships? Not clear. One of LST's projects this summer will be to get that information out there.

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby JFO1833 » Thu Apr 09, 2015 8:36 pm

63: Kentucky - BL+FC-17%, FTLTBR-79%, FTLTBR (w/o LSF)-79%
67: Denver - BL+FC-7%, FTLTBR-55%, FTLTBR (w/o LSF)-55%
RNP: St. Thomas (FL) - BL+FC-2%, FTLTBR-44%, FTLTBR (w/o LSF)-44%

New totals with 81 schools:

17,634 graduates
10,348 Full time, long term, bar required (including 281 solo practitioners and 371 school funded)
2,092 Big Law (101+)
485 Federal Clerkships

BL+FC = 15%
FTLTBR (excluding solo) = 57%
FTLTBR (excluding solo and LSF) = 55%

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby AT9 » Thu Apr 09, 2015 9:57 pm

Nice work Kentucky.

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby Vermonster » Fri Apr 10, 2015 11:01 am

Cornell is up. 74.34%

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby starry eyed » Fri Apr 10, 2015 11:04 am

Dear god.
Zuck I think we have enough info to call this one

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby JFO1833 » Fri Apr 10, 2015 11:09 am

13: Cornell - BL+FC-74%, FTLTBR-96%, FTLTBR (w/o LSF)-90%

Totals (82 Schools): BL+FC-15%, FTLTBR-58%, FTLTBR (w/o LSF)-55%

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby BigZuck » Fri Apr 10, 2015 11:09 am

starry eyed wrote:Dear god.
Zuck I think we have enough info to call this one

Call it how? You wanna kick Yale out of the T12? I'm good with that.

CCCNP confirmed. Now we've just got to get NYC to 190 and our work here is done

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby BigZuck » Fri Apr 10, 2015 11:10 am

JFO1833 wrote:BL+FC-74%, FTLTBR (w/o LSF)-90%

Good Lord Cornell

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby PeanutsNJam » Fri Apr 10, 2015 11:23 am

Why is UCI's fed clerk so high

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby starry eyed » Fri Apr 10, 2015 11:40 am

PeanutsNJam wrote:Why is UCI's fed clerk so high


pretty sure it has to do with deans calling in favors since its a a new school and the first years stats are pretty important.
I wouldn't expect it to continue this high. Wasn't its inaugural class like 50% BL/FC?
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Re: Latest employment data

Postby starry eyed » Fri Apr 10, 2015 11:42 am

C/C/C - peers in the truest sense

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby starry eyed » Fri Apr 10, 2015 11:45 am

BigZuck wrote:
starry eyed wrote:Dear god.
Zuck I think we have enough info to call this one

Call it how? You wanna kick Yale out of the T12? I'm good with that.

CCCNP confirmed. Now we've just got to get NYC to 190 and our work here is done


i get the feeling that we will be losing the N soon- my prediction for the bottom three (plus Y) is NGM+Y

anything under 70 % and i feel comfortable categorizing Northwestern into the bowels of the T12

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby Hand » Fri Apr 10, 2015 12:11 pm

BigZuck wrote:
JFO1833 wrote:BL+FC-74%, FTLTBR (w/o LSF)-90%

Good Lord Cornell


Wow, Cornell is killing it

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby pamphleteer » Fri Apr 10, 2015 12:17 pm

At this point, if you're aiming for NYC biglaw, why wouldn't you just take the money from Cornell rather than go to CNP?

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby Serett » Fri Apr 10, 2015 12:22 pm

pamphleteer wrote:At this point, if you're aiming for NYC biglaw, why wouldn't you just take the money from Cornell rather than go to CNP?


All about that Vault, 'bout that Vault!

But really, hell if I know.

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby BrazilBandit » Fri Apr 10, 2015 12:24 pm

pamphleteer wrote:At this point, if you're aiming for NYC biglaw, why wouldn't you just take the money from Cornell rather than go to CNP?


Because Ithaca? I'm not saying it's logical, but it certainly happens

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby Hand » Fri Apr 10, 2015 12:26 pm

BrazilBandit wrote:
pamphleteer wrote:At this point, if you're aiming for NYC biglaw, why wouldn't you just take the money from Cornell rather than go to CNP?


Because Ithaca? I'm not saying it's logical, but it certainly happens


Sure, at comparable cost nobody would choose Ithaca presumably, but just think about how much easier it is to get a huge scholarship at Cornell than at CNP

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby kingpin101 » Fri Apr 10, 2015 12:30 pm

Hand wrote:
BrazilBandit wrote:
pamphleteer wrote:At this point, if you're aiming for NYC biglaw, why wouldn't you just take the money from Cornell rather than go to CNP?


Because Ithaca? I'm not saying it's logical, but it certainly happens


Sure, at comparable cost nobody would choose Ithaca presumably, but just think about how much easier it is to get a huge scholarship at Cornell than at CNP

I "chose" Ithaca for undergrad, and I love it.

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby 2on1 » Fri Apr 10, 2015 12:31 pm

Great job by Cornell.

Also, glad we just assume everyone in the t14 wants NYC BigLaw.

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby BigZuck » Fri Apr 10, 2015 12:31 pm

Doesn't a large proportion of the top of Cornell's class transfer out? And then don't they also not let transfers participate in OCI? Their numbers are kind of mind boggling if both those are true

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby toothbrush » Fri Apr 10, 2015 12:34 pm

BigZuck wrote:Doesn't a large proportion of the top of Cornell's class transfer out? And then don't they also not let transfers participate in OCI? Their numbers are kind of mind boggling if both those are true

Yeah, I think it was 18 out 7 in this year. And you're right on the OCI points too, mostly (transfers in can do OCI and other job fairs that happen later in August, if they are accepted early enough).

Guesses on what % will be the highest? Looks like ~85% is a possibility, no?

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby idontknow1 » Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:49 pm

BrazilBandit wrote:
JFO1833 wrote:
BrazilBandit wrote:Mind sharing the link for UCLA? can't find it for the spreadsheet...


Got it: https://law.ucla.edu/~/media/Assets/Car ... mmary.ashx


Thanks! Spreadsheet is updated!


I hope I am not A-hole to ask this, but can you please adjust the width of the columns for "change" and "BL + FedClerk 2013." Makes it easier for my tiny laptop screen to view the data. Also, if we can see the change from 2014-13 applicants I think it would be helpful. If I can help with the spreadsheet let me know.

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby Lavitz » Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:51 pm

toothbrush wrote:
BigZuck wrote:Doesn't a large proportion of the top of Cornell's class transfer out? And then don't they also not let transfers participate in OCI? Their numbers are kind of mind boggling if both those are true

Yeah, I think it was 18 out 7 in this year. And you're right on the OCI points too, mostly (transfers in can do OCI and other job fairs that happen later in August, if they are accepted early enough).

FWIW, I saw at least two of the transfers in at OCI this past year.




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