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Re: Latest employment data

Postby 03152016 » Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:31 am

just to be clear
i am NOT advocating this as a ranking of any kind
i was responding to yomisterd's comment, i was interested in the answer myself so i compiled this
i'm not saying this should affect anyone's decision, or that it's meaningful in any way
this is not a ranking


not a ranking

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby 03152016 » Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:32 am

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby yomisterd » Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:35 am

Brut wrote:no need for skepticism
the data is all public
why would i make up something that can be easily verified


no but how did you find out CoA

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby rpupkin » Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:35 am

TIL that Skadden hires from GULC but not Cornell. Have the seeds been planted for GULC's return to the #13 slot?

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby 03152016 » Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:36 am

oh no this is just v10
sry should have made that clear
i don't think that kind of detailed clerkship data exists publicly

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby Tiago Splitter » Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:37 am

Sure hope S&C hired more than 7 people

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby 03152016 » Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:38 am

rpupkin wrote:TIL that Skadden hires from GULC but not Cornell. Have the seeds been planted for GULC's return to the #13 slot?

i just double checked my work b/c that didn't sound right to me
and it turns out there actually was 1 c/o 2013 cornell grad placed at skadden
so cornell's actual number should be 17.1%

well done cornell

btw i posted in part so y'all can correct any mistakes i made, plz let me know if you find any

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby redsoxfan1989 » Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:41 am

rpupkin wrote:TIL that Skadden hires from GULC but not Cornell. Have the seeds been planted for GULC's return to the #13 slot?

Not sure how this was compiled but Skadden's site lists one Cornell '13 grad.

Edit. Scooped.

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby yomisterd » Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:43 am

Brut wrote:
rpupkin wrote:TIL that Skadden hires from GULC but not Cornell. Have the seeds been planted for GULC's return to the #13 slot?

i just double checked my work b/c that didn't sound right to me
and it turns out there actually was 1 c/o 2013 cornell grad placed at skadden
so cornell's actual number should be 17.1%

well done cornell

btw i posted in part so y'all can correct any mistakes i made, plz let me know if you find any


S&C for H should be 22. You missed it in calculations too

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby 03152016 » Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:43 am

Tiago Splitter wrote:Sure hope S&C hired more than 7 people

it's nlj data, the exact same data they use for "go to law schools"
usually incomplete, which is one of the reasons i shit on that ranking all the time
but gives a broad view
most of the others look right to me
wlrk is super low too, but that's not unusual

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby 03152016 » Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:44 am

yomisterd wrote:
Brut wrote:
rpupkin wrote:TIL that Skadden hires from GULC but not Cornell. Have the seeds been planted for GULC's return to the #13 slot?

i just double checked my work b/c that didn't sound right to me
and it turns out there actually was 1 c/o 2013 cornell grad placed at skadden
so cornell's actual number should be 17.1%

well done cornell

btw i posted in part so y'all can correct any mistakes i made, plz let me know if you find any


S&C for H should be 22. You missed it in calculations too

are you looking at 2013 data? or 2014?

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby redsoxfan1989 » Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:45 am

Also S&C's website lists 3 Cornell '13 grads.

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby rpupkin » Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:47 am

redsoxfan1989 wrote:Also S&C's website lists 3 Cornell '13 grads.

Maybe they're all faking it like that kid on Suits.

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby 03152016 » Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:48 am

@redsox

the nlj data, unfortunately, is going to be incomplete, as discussed
if we want to do a deep dive, we can split up and get the info directly from firm sites instead
then we'd really have the full picture

i'm down to do this if others are

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby 03152016 » Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:50 am

hmm it looks like the problem is that s&c number
misterd, redsox, and tiago have all found issues with it (eta: tho i'm not sure where D's number came from)
so maybe that's the only one we need to do manually

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby Tiago Splitter » Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:53 am

NLJ just didn't have the number for S&C New York. Bastards didn't respond to the survey/website wasn't updated by the time NLJ went to print.

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby 03152016 » Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:58 am

ah that explains it

if anyone wants to do some research on the s&c site for 2013 ny office grads, plz do and post #s here, i'll add them in
if i have time i'll do a little tomorrow

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby Mack.Hambleton » Fri Apr 17, 2015 1:08 am

is that for kirkland NY or chicago?

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby yomisterd » Fri Apr 17, 2015 1:09 am

oh shit i'm looking at the 2015 go to law schools interactive data thingy

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby cannibal ox » Fri Apr 17, 2015 1:12 am

Is there a NLJ250 link that shows where each firm hired from in 2014? I found one for the c/o 2013 a while back, but I haven't been able to find it again (or one for 2014).

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby Mack.Hambleton » Fri Apr 17, 2015 1:13 am

cannibal ox wrote:Is there a NLJ250 link that shows where each firm hired from in 2014? I found one for the c/o 2013 a while back, but I haven't been able to find it again (or one for 2014).


interested as well

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby yomisterd » Fri Apr 17, 2015 1:14 am

cannibal ox wrote:Is there a NLJ250 link that shows where each firm hired from in 2014? I found one for the c/o 2013 a while back, but I haven't been able to find it again (or one for 2014).


this one is kinda fun

http://www.nationallawjournal.com/id=1202718545073

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby star fox » Fri Apr 17, 2015 1:17 am

Brut wrote:although actually now that i think about it
cornell is probably super nyc heavy
so that probably explains part of it
still, impressive

i'm actually going to re-do this using grade selective firms (as opposed to just v10) when i have the chance
probably this weekend

Don't, it's a giant waste of time. I mean if you want to knock yourself out. But it's just not something that's all that interesting.

If BL + FC isn't a great metric because of self-selection then parsing out data on who the "really prestigious" firms hire is worse.

NLJ Data is fine for this purpose as is.
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Re: Latest employment data

Postby 03152016 » Fri Apr 17, 2015 1:17 am

d are you getting a paywall? i can't get thru

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby banjo » Fri Apr 17, 2015 1:23 am

Mack.Hambleton wrote:
cannibal ox wrote:Is there a NLJ250 link that shows where each firm hired from in 2014? I found one for the c/o 2013 a while back, but I haven't been able to find it again (or one for 2014).


interested as well


I think this? http://tippingthescales.com/2015/02/the ... w-schools/

oops nvmnd we're looking for different data




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