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least useful rankings ever?

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Re: least useful rankings ever?

Postby KMart » Tue Mar 17, 2015 9:18 pm

Any rankings with Fordham at the top of it is a bad list.

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Re: least useful rankings ever?

Postby ReasonableNprudent » Tue Mar 17, 2015 9:19 pm

Wasn't there a ranking a few years ago published by Cooley that had themselves as #1, for having the largest collective library?
I'm not sure if it still exists or not. But, yeah, that one.

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Re: least useful rankings ever?

Postby buckiguy_sucks » Tue Mar 17, 2015 9:21 pm

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Re: least useful rankings ever?

Postby Capitol_Idea » Tue Mar 17, 2015 9:25 pm

buckiguy_sucks wrote:the TLS debate is finally over GULC>Cornell for NY


Lol. At 19% NY placement, GULC just edges out 'driving nails into your testicles'.

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Re: least useful rankings ever?

Postby butlerraider1 » Tue Mar 17, 2015 9:31 pm

buckiguy_sucks wrote:the TLS debate is finally over GULC>Cornell for NY


Also, Touro > Yale

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Re: least useful rankings ever?

Postby MarkinKansasCity » Tue Mar 17, 2015 9:33 pm

University of Miami just edging out Stanford for 38th, neither of which holds a candle to New York Law School at second.

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Re: least useful rankings ever?

Postby chuckbass » Tue Mar 17, 2015 9:36 pm

MarkinKansasCity wrote:University of Miami just edging out Stanford for 38th, neither of which holds a candle to New York Law School at second.

WUSTL also conspicuously missing...

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Re: least useful rankings ever?

Postby Winston1984 » Tue Mar 17, 2015 9:40 pm

KMart wrote:Any rankings with Fordham at the top of it is a bad list.

Even worse is having NYLS as number 2.

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Re: least useful rankings ever?

Postby ballcaps » Tue Mar 17, 2015 9:41 pm

ranking based on sheer number of grads placed in particular market, without regard for literally anything else?

yes i love it.

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Re: least useful rankings ever?

Postby Gooner91 » Tue Mar 17, 2015 9:50 pm

ReasonableNprudent wrote:Wasn't there a ranking a few years ago published by Cooley that had themselves as #1, for having the largest collective library?
I'm not sure if it still exists or not. But, yeah, that one.


I think they were second behind Harvard.

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Re: least useful rankings ever?

Postby ballcaps » Tue Mar 17, 2015 9:55 pm

Gooner91 wrote:
ReasonableNprudent wrote:Wasn't there a ranking a few years ago published by Cooley that had themselves as #1, for having the largest collective library?
I'm not sure if it still exists or not. But, yeah, that one.


I think they were second behind Harvard.


http://abovethelaw.com/2011/02/latest-c ... ishonesty/

looks like they took down the original list :cry:

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Re: least useful rankings ever?

Postby reasonable person » Tue Mar 17, 2015 9:57 pm

This ranking was brought to you by John Spencer Treu, Esq., LL.M., C.P.A.

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Re: least useful rankings ever?

Postby reasonable person » Tue Mar 17, 2015 9:58 pm

scottidsntknow wrote:
MarkinKansasCity wrote:University of Miami just edging out Stanford for 38th, neither of which holds a candle to New York Law School at second.

WUSTL also conspicuously missing...


Thanks to:

"This ranking takes the data provided by the law schools to the ABA and is limited to on the top 3 jurisdictions for employment per school and so a school that placed more students in each of three other jurisdictions than New York would not be included on this list, even if the school placed more students in New York than the law schools here listed. ↵"

That year, MO, IL, and DC probably surpassed NY for WUSTL, ND, and probably others.

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Re: least useful rankings ever?

Postby antiworldly » Wed Mar 18, 2015 7:24 am

Although this list is laughable, it does have an underlying point. If you're looking at law school fully committed to working in a specific city/region a strong regional isn't the end of the world. There's a lot of T14 or bust logic on this site, but depending on your career goals and the money you're offered, a regional may work for you; it's a more complicated picture than just the US news ranking.

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Re: least useful rankings ever?

Postby Winston1984 » Wed Mar 18, 2015 8:28 am

antiworldly wrote:Although this list is laughable, it does have an underlying point. If you're looking at law school fully committed to working in a specific city/region a strong regional isn't the end of the world. There's a lot of T14 or bust logic on this site, but depending on your career goals and the money you're offered, a regional may work for you; it's a more complicated picture than just the US news ranking.

There's very little T14 or bust logic on this site.

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Re: least useful rankings ever?

Postby chuckbass » Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:46 am

Winston1984 wrote:
antiworldly wrote:Although this list is laughable, it does have an underlying point. If you're looking at law school fully committed to working in a specific city/region a strong regional isn't the end of the world. There's a lot of T14 or bust logic on this site, but depending on your career goals and the money you're offered, a regional may work for you; it's a more complicated picture than just the US news ranking.

There's very little T14 or bust logic on this site.

And it does nothing to support the notion of going to a strong regional. It doesn't distinguish between any kinds of jobs, so in reality it's showing that if you go to NYLS you can get a job at Starbucks in Times Square.

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Re: least useful rankings ever?

Postby antiworldly » Wed Mar 18, 2015 11:15 am

scottidsntknow wrote:
Winston1984 wrote:
antiworldly wrote:Although this list is laughable, it does have an underlying point. If you're looking at law school fully committed to working in a specific city/region a strong regional isn't the end of the world. There's a lot of T14 or bust logic on this site, but depending on your career goals and the money you're offered, a regional may work for you; it's a more complicated picture than just the US news ranking.

There's very little T14 or bust logic on this site.

And it does nothing to support the notion of going to a strong regional. It doesn't distinguish between any kinds of jobs, so in reality it's showing that if you go to NYLS you can get a job at Starbucks in Times Square.


Certainly, and that's what makes this list laughable. I think there is a place, however, to look at where you want to end up and find a school that fits your needs for that market. If you go through the 'what are my chances' responses, the most parroted response is retake until you can get $ from a T14 and go there, which I feel is an ill-fitting solution to most people's goals.

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Re: least useful rankings ever?

Postby BigZuck » Wed Mar 18, 2015 11:20 am

antiworldly wrote:
scottidsntknow wrote:
Winston1984 wrote:
antiworldly wrote:Although this list is laughable, it does have an underlying point. If you're looking at law school fully committed to working in a specific city/region a strong regional isn't the end of the world. There's a lot of T14 or bust logic on this site, but depending on your career goals and the money you're offered, a regional may work for you; it's a more complicated picture than just the US news ranking.

There's very little T14 or bust logic on this site.

And it does nothing to support the notion of going to a strong regional. It doesn't distinguish between any kinds of jobs, so in reality it's showing that if you go to NYLS you can get a job at Starbucks in Times Square.


Certainly, and that's what makes this list laughable. I think there is a place, however, to look at where you want to end up and find a school that fits your needs for that market. If you go through the 'what are my chances' responses, the most parroted response is retake until you can get $ from a T14 and go there, which I feel is an ill-fitting solution to most people's goals.

I question your reading comprehension skillz if this is your takeaway from reading chances/choices threads

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Re: least useful rankings ever?

Postby antiworldly » Wed Mar 18, 2015 11:35 am

BigZuck wrote:I question your reading comprehension skillz if this is your takeaway from reading chances/choices threads


We seem to be agreeing on my main point of contention, and I'd encourage you to post more often in the chances/choices thread because at least this past year in most threads it has been a drumbeat of

middlebear wrote:Sit out and retake, and go to a T14.

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Re: least useful rankings ever?

Postby BigZuck » Wed Mar 18, 2015 11:58 am

antiworldly wrote:I'd encourage you to post more often in the chances/choices thread

:shock: :arrow: :lol: :arrow: :mrgreen:

Ok, now I see that you're just trolling. Carry on.

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Re: least useful rankings ever?

Postby Winston1984 » Wed Mar 18, 2015 12:18 pm

antiworldly wrote:
scottidsntknow wrote:
Winston1984 wrote:
antiworldly wrote:Although this list is laughable, it does have an underlying point. If you're looking at law school fully committed to working in a specific city/region a strong regional isn't the end of the world. There's a lot of T14 or bust logic on this site, but depending on your career goals and the money you're offered, a regional may work for you; it's a more complicated picture than just the US news ranking.

There's very little T14 or bust logic on this site.

And it does nothing to support the notion of going to a strong regional. It doesn't distinguish between any kinds of jobs, so in reality it's showing that if you go to NYLS you can get a job at Starbucks in Times Square.


Certainly, and that's what makes this list laughable. I think there is a place, however, to look at where you want to end up and find a school that fits your needs for that market. If you go through the 'what are my chances' responses, the most parroted response is retake until you can get $ from a T14 and go there, which I feel is an ill-fitting solution to most people's goals.

A lot of posters come in with lofty goals/want biglaw. Whenever a poster says they want to work at a small firm in their hometown, folks are fine endorsing the state flagship for a low cost.

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Re: least useful rankings ever?

Postby antiworldly » Wed Mar 18, 2015 12:22 pm

BigZuck wrote:
antiworldly wrote:I'd encourage you to post more often in the chances/choices thread

:shock: :arrow: :lol: :arrow: :mrgreen:

Ok, now I see that you're just trolling. Carry on.


Got to poke fun every once in a while! I am amazed though at the number of people with the T14 or bust mentality; with people going to law school without asking what/where next and choosing just on USNWR numbers.

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Re: least useful rankings ever?

Postby BigZuck » Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:12 pm

antiworldly wrote:
BigZuck wrote:
antiworldly wrote:I'd encourage you to post more often in the chances/choices thread

:shock: :arrow: :lol: :arrow: :mrgreen:

Ok, now I see that you're just trolling. Carry on.


Got to poke fun every once in a while! I am amazed though at the number of people with the T14 or bust mentality; with people going to law school without asking what/where next and choosing just on USNWR numbers.

As Winston said, there is no T14 or bust mentality, just a "Go where you can get the job you want" mentality. It's not TLS' fault if what a lot of posters want necessitates going to a T14. Just cuz you like to try and stick square pegs into round holes doesn't mean other people think that's a good idea.

But this looks like a low-IQ contrarian schtick on your part so I'll stop harping on it




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