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Number of Full Rides T14 Schools Give Out [data]

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 9:23 pm
by Mack.Hambleton
Thought 0Ls could know more about the proportion of full rides given out by T14s, which may help choosing. First Column is total full tuition or plus scholarships from the 2013-2014 cycle and in parentheses is YTD this cycle. Data from LSN.

Columbia: 20 (16)
Chicago: 22 (6)
NYU: 22 (5)
Penn: 12 (2)
UVA: 29 (30)
Berkeley: 0 (3)
Michigan: 14 (13)
Duke: 10 (14)
Cornell: 31 (8)
NW: 32 (5)
GULC: 0* (0)

*There were no full tuition i.e. 150k+ scholarships for GULC on LSN, there were 6 scholarships over 120k and below 150k last cycle however.

Matriculant Full Ride Data (data from 2014 ABA 509s, covers last 3 years):

Columbia: 13 full tuition
Chicago: 9 full tuition 51 more than full tuition
NYU: 103 full tuition
Penn: 35 full tuition 2 more than full tuition
UVA: 46 full tuition 8 more than full tuition
Berkeley: 0 full tuition 22 more than full tuition
Michigan: 14 full tuition 12 more than full tuition
Duke: 13 full tuition
Cornell: 0 full tuition*
NW: 1 full tuition 4 more than full tuition*
GULC: 1 full tuition

* NW and Cornells 150k scholarships fall in the half-full category, so it is hard to tell how many were given. There were 125 half to full tuition schollies at NW and 60 at Cornell FWIW.

Re: Number of Full Rides T14 Schools Give Out [data]

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 9:33 pm
by bearsfan23
Mack.Hambleton wrote:Thought 0Ls could know more about the proportion of full rides given out by T14s, which may help choosing. First Column is total full tuition or plus scholarships from the 2013-2014 cycle and in parentheses is YTD this cycle. Data from LSN.

Columbia: 20 (16)
Chicago: 22 (6)
NYU: 22 (5)
Penn: 2 (12)
UVA: 29 (30)
Berkeley: 0 (3)
Michigan: 14 (13)
Duke: 10 (14)
Cornell: 31 (8)
NW: 32 (5)
GULC: 0* (0)

*There were no full tuition i.e. 150k+ scholarships for GULC on LSN, there were 6 scholarships over 120k and below 150k last cycle however.
Is the Northwestern figure based on their $150k ED scholarships? If so, that isn't a full tuition scholarship. I mean it was 5 years ago, but now tuition is over $56k not to mention other fees/expenses and the scholarship hasn't changed

I could be wrong but I'm not sure Northwestern gives out ANY actual "full scholarships"

Re: Number of Full Rides T14 Schools Give Out [data]

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 9:34 pm
by Mack.Hambleton
you're right its up to 56k now, I'm guessing it doesn't include fees either which is shitty.

Re: Number of Full Rides T14 Schools Give Out [data]

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 9:35 pm
by nickhalden
Where are you getting the 12 Levys at Penn YTD? I only see two on LSN and we've only recorded six on TLS.

Edit: Jk I must be dyslexic.

Re: Number of Full Rides T14 Schools Give Out [data]

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 9:35 pm
by 03152016
see 509s for more complete data on full rides, albeit not broken down by year

Re: Number of Full Rides T14 Schools Give Out [data]

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 9:36 pm
by Mack.Hambleton
Brut wrote:see 509s for more complete data on full rides, albeit not broken down by year
good idea, will add this. doesn't vary too much from year to year from what I can tell

@nick had them switched

Re: Number of Full Rides T14 Schools Give Out [data]

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 9:38 pm
by Mack.Hambleton
although one thing to consider is 509s are matriculant data vs admitted data

Re: Number of Full Rides T14 Schools Give Out [data]

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 9:55 pm
by Mack.Hambleton
updated OP with 509 data, interested what the more than full tuition scholarships are at Penn, UVA, and Berk

Re: Number of Full Rides T14 Schools Give Out [data]

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 1:09 pm
by Cobretti
bearsfan23 wrote:
Mack.Hambleton wrote:Thought 0Ls could know more about the proportion of full rides given out by T14s, which may help choosing. First Column is total full tuition or plus scholarships from the 2013-2014 cycle and in parentheses is YTD this cycle. Data from LSN.

Columbia: 20 (16)
Chicago: 22 (6)
NYU: 22 (5)
Penn: 2 (12)
UVA: 29 (30)
Berkeley: 0 (3)
Michigan: 14 (13)
Duke: 10 (14)
Cornell: 31 (8)
NW: 32 (5)
GULC: 0* (0)

*There were no full tuition i.e. 150k+ scholarships for GULC on LSN, there were 6 scholarships over 120k and below 150k last cycle however.
Is the Northwestern figure based on their $150k ED scholarships? If so, that isn't a full tuition scholarship. I mean it was 5 years ago, but now tuition is over $56k not to mention other fees/expenses and the scholarship hasn't changed

I could be wrong but I'm not sure Northwestern gives out ANY actual "full scholarships"
I'm pretty sure NU is giving out 165K full rides now. Dunno if the ED scholly increased to that too though.

Re: Number of Full Rides T14 Schools Give Out [data]

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 1:14 pm
by js1663
FYI haven't looked through the rest but 2 of the 6 Ruby's listed here as having been given out are from last years applicants who just messed up their cycle data or w/e - so more accurate would be 24 (4)

Re: Number of Full Rides T14 Schools Give Out [data]

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 1:34 pm
by nickhalden
js1663 wrote:FYI haven't looked through the rest but 2 of the 6 Ruby's listed here as having been given out are from last years applicants who just messed up their cycle data or w/e - so more accurate would be 24 (4)
I think 10 people have posted Rubies on TLS btw. I know we're staying consistent by using LSN data, but it's worthwhile know that so we (I) don't get our (my) hopes up for a MASSIVE Ruby wave haha

Re: Number of Full Rides T14 Schools Give Out [data]

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 2:21 pm
by Dog
As mentioned the Northwestern scholarships listed are not quite full. Also, it is actually 4 on LSN not 5. One of those is actually from last year's waitlist (someone retook the LSAT).