Would a *very* unusual LOR help?

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Would a *very* unusual LOR help?

Postby mcleemz » Tue Feb 03, 2015 1:08 pm

Long story short, if I wanted, I could get Marilyn Manson to write me a LOR. We've worked together for about 3 years, and he's actually very smart and a good writer. Would it make a positive difference at a T10 school? Or is that so weird it would it sail over admissions officers' heads (or even backfire)?

My numbers are 171/3.81 (LSAC GPA, regular is 3.77), 10 years out of undergrad with unusual softs and WE, obviously. I feel like maybe a LOR like this could help me as a Yale snowflake, but I don't really want to go there (Columbia is my top choice)

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Re: Would a *very* unusual LOR help?

Postby malleus discentium » Tue Feb 03, 2015 1:25 pm

Academic LORs are really the only ones law schools care about. But since you're 10 years out of undergrad, that's probably not going to happen. To the extent that Marilyn Manson can write you a professional LOR that would be good if someone else wrote it--that is, it can speak to your writing and analytical abilities--it's probably better than if it were written by any rando you worked with. But only if the LOR is as strong as anyone else could write. Who recommenders are matters very little, especially if they're outside the legal field.

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Re: Would a *very* unusual LOR help?

Postby Ron Don Volante » Tue Feb 03, 2015 1:34 pm

LORs aren't really going to win you any battles, they're more of a box to check.

Just ask to get a copy of it before you use it to make sure it's not going to hurt you in some way.

Adcomms might look negatively at celebrity LORs unless the recommender makes it clear there was a close professional/academic relationship, too. Make sure it's a LOR you'd want to use if the recommender was some anonymous schmo.

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Re: Would a *very* unusual LOR help?

Postby SweetTort » Tue Feb 03, 2015 1:38 pm

Would it be in lyric form?

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Re: Would a *very* unusual LOR help?

Postby mcleemz » Tue Feb 03, 2015 1:45 pm

Ok thanks! I do think the letter would be objectively good and we have a strong professional relationship, but I'll be able to wrangle 1 academic LOR and 2 professional, so if anything, I'll mention MM *very* briefly in my personal statement when I explain what I've been doing the last 10 years.

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Re: Would a *very* unusual LOR help?

Postby Ron Don Volante » Tue Feb 03, 2015 1:47 pm

Good luck. I have a feeling you're going to find your next career far more interesting and exciting.

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Re: Would a *very* unusual LOR help?

Postby Rigo » Tue Feb 03, 2015 1:51 pm

Lol @ being adjacent to a D-list celebrity qualifying as a great Yale soft.

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Re: Would a *very* unusual LOR help?

Postby bjsesq » Tue Feb 03, 2015 1:53 pm

DO IT

Have him say he is begging, and that he can't smell his own shit on his knees.

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Re: Would a *very* unusual LOR help?

Postby mcleemz » Tue Feb 03, 2015 1:56 pm

Dirigo wrote:Lol @ being adjacent to a D-list celebrity qualifying as a great Yale soft.

I didn't say a "great" one by any means. C'mon, we're all trying to find any minor edge here and this is only, like, the 20th stupidest idea I've seen floated on this forum this morning alone.

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Re: Would a *very* unusual LOR help?

Postby Rigo » Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:06 pm

mcleemz wrote:
Dirigo wrote:Lol @ being adjacent to a D-list celebrity qualifying as a great Yale soft.

I didn't say a "great" one by any means. C'mon, we're all trying to find any minor edge here and this is only, like, the 20th stupidest idea I've seen floated on this forum this morning alone.

Granted, I don't follow his career but if he actually knows you then sure why not.
It's not like you're getting a LOR from Charles Manson.

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Re: Would a *very* unusual LOR help?

Postby fats provolone » Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:20 pm

can he really suck his own dick

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Re: Would a *very* unusual LOR help?

Postby Pete Venkman » Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:31 pm

Could be wrong but I think those numbers are more likely than not to get you into Columbia, MM or not. Yale probably still a longshot.

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Re: Would a *very* unusual LOR help?

Postby mike0331 » Tue Feb 03, 2015 8:14 pm

So will it be signed Brian Hugh Warner...

If you've been working in that field, and he's a coworker or boss... like his music or not I don't think you can argue with his success in the genre, even if he may have peaked a while ago.

Mike

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Re: Would a *very* unusual LOR help?

Postby Winston1984 » Wed Feb 04, 2015 11:11 am

mike0331 wrote:So will it be signed Brian Hugh Warner...

If you've been working in that field, and he's a coworker or boss... like his music or not I don't think you can argue with his success in the genre, even if he may have peaked a while ago.

Mike

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Re: Would a *very* unusual LOR help?

Postby Ron Don Volante » Wed Feb 04, 2015 11:27 am

Winston1984 wrote:
mike0331 wrote:So will it be signed Brian Hugh Warner...

If you've been working in that field, and he's a coworker or boss... like his music or not I don't think you can argue with his success in the genre, even if he may have peaked a while ago.

Mike

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tbf it can be pretty badass

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Re: Would a *very* unusual LOR help?

Postby fats provolone » Wed Feb 04, 2015 11:37 am

Winston1984 wrote:
mike0331 wrote:So will it be signed Brian Hugh Warner...

If you've been working in that field, and he's a coworker or boss... like his music or not I don't think you can argue with his success in the genre, even if he may have peaked a while ago.

Mike

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Re: Would a *very* unusual LOR help?

Postby hdunlop » Wed Feb 04, 2015 11:42 am

Working with Marilyn Manson isn't a unique Yale soft. Being Marilyn Manson is a unique Yale soft.

People are ignoring you've been out ten years so academic letters are less expected than if you were two years out.

If you have a close enough relationship that you're comfortable talking with him about what he should write I would go for it, but I'm into weird stuff that makes you stand out. But you want to make sure he talks about the skills that would make you likely to succeed in law or whatever, attention to detail, analytical reasoning, whatever.

And make sure he signs it "I am the God of Fuck."

Mike

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Re: Would a *very* unusual LOR help?

Postby ballcaps » Wed Feb 04, 2015 11:47 am

fats provolone wrote:can he really suck his own dick

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Re: Would a *very* unusual LOR help?

Postby bjsesq » Wed Feb 04, 2015 11:48 am

hdunlop wrote:Mike

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Would a *very* unusual LOR help?

Postby fats provolone » Wed Feb 04, 2015 11:49 am

that was excellent

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Re: Would a *very* unusual LOR help?

Postby Winston1984 » Wed Feb 04, 2015 12:13 pm

Mike

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Re: Would a *very* unusual LOR help?

Postby mike0331 » Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:22 pm

Haters gonna hate, and ainters gonna aint.

Mike

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Re: Would a *very* unusual LOR help?

Postby Pizon » Wed Feb 04, 2015 3:50 pm

Go for it. It might not make all the difference, but I don't think it will hurt and it'll make you stand out.

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Re: Would a *very* unusual LOR help?

Postby bjsesq » Wed Feb 04, 2015 4:07 pm

mike0331 wrote:Haters gonna hate, and ainters gonna aint.

Mike

Mike

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Re: Would a *very* unusual LOR help?

Postby Mack.Hambleton » Fri Feb 06, 2015 5:38 am

Winston1984 wrote:
mike0331 wrote:So will it be signed Brian Hugh Warner...

If you've been working in that field, and he's a coworker or boss... like his music or not I don't think you can argue with his success in the genre, even if he may have peaked a while ago.

Mike

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