Just no.JayhawkLaw wrote:CORRECTION - Thanks to LST for placing us in the top third of a list of law schools sorted by their LST score and assigned a number corresponding to their placement on this list.
There's a reason why LST doesn't rank.
Just no.JayhawkLaw wrote:CORRECTION - Thanks to LST for placing us in the top third of a list of law schools sorted by their LST score and assigned a number corresponding to their placement on this list.
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Going to keep this on topic by how I phrase the question:Birdnals wrote:OP: Can you tell me if your admissions office still feels the below writer should be blackballed from all 200 law schools for this admittedly immature and rude response to your fee waiver emails in the winter of 2011?
Don't deans have a greater expectation of professionalism and maturity than some 22 year old kid?JayhawkLaw wrote:My guess is Reasonable Man or Birdnals is the student who sent this e-mail, or at least a close friend (how else would they get that e-mail?) Clearly this is a personal issue for the student who is unwilling to take responsibility for his actions.
The e-mail was beyond unprofessional, it was threatening. Imagine if someone working at a law firm sent such an e-mail to a client, opposing counsel, or a judge? I do not believe there is an expectation of privacy when someone sends an e-mail of this nature. For the record, I only forwarded the e-mail to the schools I knew he had applied to and only after I waited for his response to my e-mail. I was expecting he would apologize and explain it was a stupid mistake on his part. At which point I would have accepted the apology and done nothing. Instead, his response was as obnoxious and unprofessional as the first one, at which point I shared the e-mails with just those schools.
My advice to everyone - the law is a profession, be professional at all times.
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Do you know that Kansas and Missouri are rivals and this obviously the email was sent to be funny? Don't you think that there's room for humor in the practice of law? If a Yale grad sent that email to Harvard, do you think Harvard would take it so personally? Do you think that insecurity perhaps clouded your ability to take things lightly and appropriately?JayhawkLaw wrote:My guess is Birdnals is the student who sent this e-mail, or at least a close friend (how else would he get that e-mail?) Clearly this is a personal issue for the student who is unwilling to take responsibility for his actions.
The e-mail was beyond unprofessional, it was threatening. Imagine if someone working at a law firm sent such an e-mail to a client, opposing counsel, or a judge? I do not believe there is an expectation of privacy when someone sends an e-mail of this nature. For the record, I only forwarded the e-mail to the schools I knew he had applied to and only after I waited for his response to my e-mail. I was expecting he would apologize and explain it was a stupid mistake on his part. At which point I would have accepted the apology and done nothing. Instead, his response was as obnoxious and unprofessional as the first one, at which point I shared the e-mails with just those schools.
My advice to everyone - the law is a profession, be professional at all times.
I would never send that e-mail, and don't appreciate that accusation. I don't disagree that it was very unprofessional and that they shouldn't have sent it. If I were an employer, I probably would not want to hire someone who'd send such an email because I'd have serious concerns about their judgment (incurring risks that cannot benefit them or anyone else).JayhawkLaw wrote:My guess is Birdnals is the student who sent this e-mail, or at least a close friend (how else would he get that e-mail?) Clearly this is a personal issue for the student who is unwilling to take responsibility for his actions.
The e-mail was beyond unprofessional, it was threatening. Imagine if someone working at a law firm sent such an e-mail to a client, opposing counsel, or a judge? I do not believe there is an expectation of privacy when someone sends an e-mail of this nature. For the record, I only forwarded the e-mail to the schools I knew he had applied to and only after I waited for his response to my e-mail. I was expecting he would apologize and explain it was a stupid mistake on his part. At which point I would have accepted the apology and done nothing. Instead, his response was as obnoxious and unprofessional as the first one, at which point I shared the e-mails with just those schools.
My advice to everyone - the law is a profession, be professional at all times.
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I am genuinely curious about this myself. Hope the Dean can answer this one when he has a second.jenesaislaw wrote:Steve, I have a question about fee waivers. Who do you target with them?
I wish we could get answers from all admissions staff on this question.
On his behalf, the formal logic statement of this is that if you land top firms in these places then you must have done well and worked hard in the job search. If applicants can't understand that according to this logic statement, they can do both of these things and still be begging for change on the corner then they really shouldn't be going to law school.Brut wrote:actually 2014, as the dean has explained before, ku is a great choice for applicants from out-of-state
with a "smart job search strategy", ku students can land in top firms in nyc, chi, d.c., and even pheonix
but beware, you'll need to do well in law school and put in a lot of hard work
so you should only pursue this route if you think you'll do well in law school and you're willing to work hard!
since this is a q&a, my question for the dean:
at nine months, was the number of students from the class of 2013 who landed in biglaw higher or lower than the number of students from that class who were completely unemployed?
do you think posts like the one you wrote above have the potential to mislead prospective students?
Actually he didn't say it was a great choice for out-of-state students, just that it was possible to find employment out of the region. Which it is. And he added the caveat that those students who did find out-of-area jobs had to have good grades and put a lot of work into the job search. Which indicates, you know, that it's not easy.Brut wrote:actually 2014, as the dean has explained before, ku is a great choice for applicants from out-of-state
with a "smart job search strategy", ku students can land in top firms in nyc, chi, d.c., and even pheonix
but beware, you'll need to do well in law school and put in a lot of hard work
so you should only pursue this route if you think you'll do well in law school and you're willing to work hard!
since this is a q&a, my question for the dean:
at nine months, was the number of students from the class of 2013 who landed in biglaw higher or lower than the number of students from that class who were completely unemployed?
do you think posts like the one you wrote above have the potential to mislead prospective students?
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