2015 USNWR T25 Prediction Contest (Winners Announced)

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Postby jdapplicant » Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:35 pm

lawschool22 wrote:I may be biased but I don't think you can place NYU in the same tier as Berkeley or UVA, or even Penn really.

Not that any of this matters for more than the sake of our own discussion and entertainment.



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Re: 2015 USNWR T25 Pred. Cont. (LEEKS)

Postby boushi » Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:35 pm

Baby_Got_Feuerbach wrote:
boushi wrote:So how does the scoring work for schools that were not ranked at all? For example, I didn't put Washington or W&M in my top 25. How will the penalty for that sort of error be calculated?


u r done here


Did I miss something obvious? I didn't read every page of the thread, but it seems unclear from the rules stated in the OP...

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Re: 2015 USNWR T25 Pred. Cont. (LEEKS)

Postby rebexness » Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:37 pm

Baby_Got_Feuerbach wrote:
rebexness wrote:
Baby_Got_Feuerbach wrote:
Oh right, silly having three schools be #20.


How does that equal 25 doe?


The next school would need to be #24. Two schools are #24 = the t25.


Did Spivey's twitter post the 24s? I don't see anything on the blog.

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Postby lhanvt13 » Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:37 pm

cron1834 wrote:Jesus, the simple arithmetic fails ITT. No wonder STEM degrees are in demand :shock:

:lol:

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Postby lhanvt13 » Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:38 pm

rebexness wrote:
Baby_Got_Feuerbach wrote:
rebexness wrote:
Baby_Got_Feuerbach wrote:
Oh right, silly having three schools be #20.


How does that equal 25 doe?


The next school would need to be #24. Two schools are #24 = the t25.


Did Spivey's twitter post the 24s? I don't see anything on the blog.

University of washington and w&m
@spiveyconsult

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Postby rebexness » Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:39 pm

lhanvt13 wrote:University of washington and w&m
@spiveyconsult


THX! (i'm too old to twitter effectively)

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Re: 2015 USNWR T25 Pred. Cont. (LEEKS)

Postby boushi » Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:39 pm

Nova wrote:
boushi wrote:So how does the scoring work for schools that were not ranked at all? For example, I didn't put Washington or W&M in my top 25. How will the penalty for that sort of error be calculated?

you will be penalized by however many spots the schools you mistakenly put in the T25 are off by.

I think.


Ah, ok. Probably should have just filled in the schools after the top 14 with schools that had very little chance of making the top 25, if that is the case. Maybe next year a flat 5 point penalty for each school in the T25 that one did not rank would eliminate the problem.

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Postby snagglepuss » Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:42 pm

The real elephant in the room here is that no one is going to go to non-T2 institution Stanford. Harvard to 700 1Ls!

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Postby Crowing » Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:55 pm

Wait lemme get this straight

SLS increased their LSAT median... And dropped??

So mad.

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Postby patogordo » Mon Mar 10, 2014 3:01 pm

game over Stanford, close up shop

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Postby rad lulz » Mon Mar 10, 2014 3:16 pm

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Postby Baby_Got_Feuerbach » Mon Mar 10, 2014 3:22 pm

Second page please

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Postby 03152016 » Mon Mar 10, 2014 3:23 pm

lawschool22 wrote:I may be biased but I don't think you can place NYU in the same tier as Berkeley or UVA, or even Penn really.

Penn is awesome, but I also don't really buy the CCNP thing. The tier thing is sort of silly (as are USNWR rankings in general), but if you had to make them, there's a certain logic in HYS/CCN.

I've always taken the tiers to mean a group of peer schools that move around within their group, but as a whole stay in roughly the same rank over time. If that's the case, CCNP doesn't really make sense to me. Columbia and NYU have been T6 for the last 23 years, and Chicago has been T6 for 22 of the last 23 years. CCN have jumped around within their tier in every configuration, but Penn has never ranked higher than any of CCN.

Looking at just where schools are now, CCNP could make sense as a tier, but it would have to be CCNP, CCNB, CCNV, or CCNM, depending on the timeframe, which sort of defeats the purpose.

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Postby kaiser » Mon Mar 10, 2014 3:26 pm

Max324 wrote:
lawschool22 wrote:I may be biased but I don't think you can place NYU in the same tier as Berkeley or UVA, or even Penn really.

Penn is awesome, but I also don't really buy the CCNP thing. The tier thing is sort of silly (as are USNWR rankings in general), but if you had to make them, there's a certain logic in HYS/CCN.

I've always taken the tiers to mean a group of peer schools that move around within their group, but as a whole stay in roughly the same rank over time. If that's the case, CCNP doesn't really make sense to me. Columbia and NYU have been T6 for the last 23 years, and Chicago has been T6 for 22 of the last 23 years. CCN have jumped around within their tier in every configuration, but Penn has never ranked higher than any of CCN.

Looking at just where schools are now, CCNP could make sense as a tier, but it would have to be CCNP, CCNB, CCNV, or CCNM, depending on the timeframe, which sort of defeats the purpose.


Look at the representation at the top firms (even accounting for differences in class size), and you will see why its CCN. Penn is undoubtedly an amazing school, and it often comes down to minor differences to distinguish these top schools, but you can see the difference in top firm representation between NYU and Penn, whereas you can barely see any difference between Columbia and NYU.

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Postby rebexness » Mon Mar 10, 2014 3:30 pm

Penn's employment #s are pretty far above at least MVD etc, however.

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Postby goden » Mon Mar 10, 2014 3:34 pm

Employers flocking away from USC to UCLA

in DROVES

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Postby Nova » Mon Mar 10, 2014 3:35 pm

goden wrote:Employers flocking away from USC to UCLA EMORY

in DROVES

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Postby Tiago Splitter » Mon Mar 10, 2014 3:36 pm

But seriously heads are rolling at USC right now. Fight on.

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Postby kaiser » Mon Mar 10, 2014 3:38 pm

rebexness wrote:Penn's employment #s are pretty far above at least MVD etc, however.


No doubt. Which is why the tiers thing is a silly conversation all around. Penn seems to largely place into NYC, and since NYC is where so many biglaw jobs are, of course that will boost up their employment numbers when compared to Duke, UVA, etc. But why does it matter whether it is more "similar" to the schools above it or the schools below it? 7 is 7 regardless, and its an excellent number to have.

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Postby Mal Reynolds » Mon Mar 10, 2014 3:38 pm

North, you need better golf clubs bro. Those things are sad. And your bag makes you look like an 80 year old.

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Postby bjsesq » Mon Mar 10, 2014 3:57 pm

THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING

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Re: 2015 USNWR T25 Pred. Cont. (LEEKS)

Postby Dafaq » Mon Mar 10, 2014 3:59 pm

Quick observation. Surprised at the number of guesses that nailed the Columbia/Chicago tie…nicely done…ditto the Duke/Mich tie at 10. On the downside a lot of folks had Penn and NY tied or Penn still tied with V.

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Re: 2015 USNWR T25 Pred. Cont. (LEEKS)

Postby jn7 » Mon Mar 10, 2014 4:00 pm

Since I'm a 1L, it is the first time I have been in law school while rankings have come out...and I have to say...very anticlimactic. I really thought it'd be on CNN, maybe on Crossfire, a few analysts chucking mud at each other, something.

:(

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Postby Sgt Brody. » Mon Mar 10, 2014 4:02 pm

Any info about UCI?

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