2015 USNWR T25 Prediction Contest (Winners Announced)

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Re: 2015 USNWR T25 Pred. Cont. (LEEKS)

Postby MikeSpivey » Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:06 pm

The truth is that USNWR publishes even more granular rankings that it distributes only to insiders. We can see from the data that Columbia is slightly (but noticeably) above Chicago, while Duke is above Michigan.


I think that is it. I saw a powerpoint years ago of this hyper-granular data and it was fascinating. I guess Bob doesn't do that publicly anymore.

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Re: 2015 USNWR T25 Pred. Cont. (LEEKS)

Postby Big Dog » Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:10 pm

With GULC and Cornell tying, is it now the T13?


Nope. The T14 became 14 due to the fact that everyone of these schools was in the top 10 at least once. (Even GULC, which was top 10 in the second or third issue of USNews.)

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Re: 2015 USNWR T25 Pred. Cont. (LEEKS)

Postby Nucky » Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:10 pm

rpupkin wrote:
goldenboy514 wrote:With GULC and Cornell tying, is it now the T13?

Good question. I'm looking at the actual assigned point values, and the spread between Cornell and USC is minuscule. We're basically talking about statistical noise here. For all intents and purposes, we're in a T22 world now.


Once you go past the T14 you go off a cliff in terms of employment. Say what you want about GULC but they have a huge class each year, and their numbers are still much better than the rest. UTers, UCLAers, etc. can cry all they want but the fact remains that they don't even begin to threaten the T14 when it comes to employment.

UT, UCLA, USC, etc. are nothing more than strong regionals/state flagships in states with strong markets. No one in Florida will care about your UT degree anymore than someone in Texas will care about your USC degree, and so on...
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Re: 2015 USNWR T25 Pred. Cont. (LEEKS)

Postby Serett » Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:11 pm

goldenboy514 wrote:With GULC and Cornell tying, is it now the T13?


inb4 it already was

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Re: 2015 USNWR T25 Pred. Cont. (LEEKS)

Postby rpupkin » Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:18 pm

Nucky wrote:
rpupkin wrote:
goldenboy514 wrote:With GULC and Cornell tying, is it now the T13?

Good question. I'm looking at the actual assigned point values, and the spread between Cornell and USC is minuscule. We're basically talking about statistical noise here. For all intents and purposes, we're in a T22 world now.


Once you go past the T14 you go off a cliff in terms of employment. Say what you want about GULC but they have a huge class each year, and their numbers are still much better than the rest. UTers, UCLAers, etc. can cry all they want but the fact remains that they don't even begin to threaten the T14 when it comes to employment.

Dude, we're talking about rankings, not "employment." Let's keep the focus where it belongs.

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Re: 2015 USNWR T25 Pred. Cont. (LEEKS)

Postby MikeSpivey » Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:21 pm

rpupkin wrote:
Nucky wrote:
rpupkin wrote:
goldenboy514 wrote:With GULC and Cornell tying, is it now the T13?

Good question. I'm looking at the actual assigned point values, and the spread between Cornell and USC is minuscule. We're basically talking about statistical noise here. For all intents and purposes, we're in a T22 world now.


Once you go past the T14 you go off a cliff in terms of employment. Say what you want about GULC but they have a huge class each year, and their numbers are still much better than the rest. UTers, UCLAers, etc. can cry all they want but the fact remains that they don't even begin to threaten the T14 when it comes to employment.

Dude, we're talking about rankings, not "employment." Let's keep the focus where it belongs.


"We're talking Rankings!" - Allen Iverson agrees.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGDBR2L5kzI

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Re: 2015 USNWR T25 Pred. Cont. (LEEKS)

Postby Mack.Hambleton » Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:22 pm

just saw the updates, thank you based spivey.

kind of glad michigan and virginia fell to better reflect their biglaw + fed clerk placement in relation to the other schools (although Cornell and Georgetown tying does not help this).

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Re: 2015 USNWR T25 Pred. Cont. (LEEKS)

Postby riverwater » Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:25 pm

rpupkin wrote:
Nucky wrote:
rpupkin wrote:
goldenboy514 wrote:With GULC and Cornell tying, is it now the T13?

Good question. I'm looking at the actual assigned point values, and the spread between Cornell and USC is minuscule. We're basically talking about statistical noise here. For all intents and purposes, we're in a T22 world now.


Once you go past the T14 you go off a cliff in terms of employment. Say what you want about GULC but they have a huge class each year, and their numbers are still much better than the rest. UTers, UCLAers, etc. can cry all they want but the fact remains that they don't even begin to threaten the T14 when it comes to employment.

Dude, we're talking about rankings, not "employment." Let's keep the focus where it belongs.


"We're sitting here ... and we're talking about
employment. I mean listen, we're sitting here talking about employment, not rankings, not rankings, not rankings, but we're talking about employment." - Allen Iverson, 2002

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Re: 2015 USNWR T25 Pred. Cont. (LEEKS)

Postby whereskyle » Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:31 pm

goldenboy514 wrote:With GULC and Cornell tying, is it now the T13?


Still refers to 14 schools total.

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Re: 2015 USNWR T25 Pred. Cont. (LEEKS)

Postby rebexness » Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:39 pm

SUP PENN. <3

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Re: 2015 USNWR T25 Pred. Cont. (LEEKS)

Postby goldenboy514 » Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:46 pm

rebexness wrote:SUP PENN. <3

HYS
CCNP

Image

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Re: 2015 USNWR T25 Pred. Cont. (LEEKS)

Postby minnbills » Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:46 pm

Pretty pleased UMN survived and is still in the top 20.

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Re: 2015 USNWR T25 Pred. Cont. (LEEKS)

Postby Nova » Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:48 pm

minnbills wrote:Pretty pleased UMN survived and is still in the top 20.

me too

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Re: 2015 USNWR T25 Pred. Cont. (LEEKS)

Postby snagglepuss » Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:48 pm

*employers preparing to stampede Emory's law campus*

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Postby lawschool22 » Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:53 pm

goldenboy514 wrote:
rebexness wrote:SUP PENN. <3

HYS
CCNP

Image


Nope

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Re: 2015 USNWR T25 Pred. Cont. (LEEKS)

Postby Yanky91 » Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:54 pm

How does Spivey get this?

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Re: 2015 USNWR T25 Pred. Cont. (LEEKS)

Postby Kimikho » Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:58 pm

could we get the leek in the OP?

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Postby lawschool22 » Mon Mar 10, 2014 1:02 pm

scoobers wrote:could we get the leek in the OP?


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Re: 2015 USNWR T25 Pred. Cont. (LEEKS)

Postby rpupkin » Mon Mar 10, 2014 1:03 pm

lawschool22 wrote:
goldenboy514 wrote:
rebexness wrote:SUP PENN. <3

HYS
CCNP
Nope

If you look at the internal numbers, the news is mostly bad for Penn. The gap between Penn and CC widened, and the gap between P and B narrowed. If current trends hold, we're looking at the following sub-tiers for awhile:

HYS
CC
NPBV
DMN

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Re: 2015 USNWR T25 Pred. Cont. (LEEKS)

Postby jk148706 » Mon Mar 10, 2014 1:04 pm

rpupkin wrote:
lawschool22 wrote:
goldenboy514 wrote:
rebexness wrote:SUP PENN. <3

HYS
CCNP
Nope

If you look at the internal numbers, the news is mostly bad for Penn. The gap between Penn and CC widened, and the gap between P and B narrowed. If current trends hold, we're looking at the following sub-tiers for awhile:

HYS
CC
NPBV
DMN


I love USNWR sub-tiers

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Re: 2015 USNWR T25 Pred. Cont. (LEEKS)

Postby lawschool22 » Mon Mar 10, 2014 1:07 pm

rpupkin wrote:
lawschool22 wrote:
goldenboy514 wrote:
rebexness wrote:SUP PENN. <3

HYS
CCNP
Nope

If you look at the internal numbers, the news is mostly bad for Penn. The gap between Penn and CC widened, and the gap between P and B narrowed. If current trends hold, we're looking at the following sub-tiers for awhile:

HYS
CC
NPBV
DMN


I may be biased but I don't think you can place NYU in the same tier as Berkeley or UVA, or even Penn really.

Not that any of this matters for more than the sake of our own discussion and entertainment.

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Re: 2015 USNWR T25 Pred. Cont. (LEEKS)

Postby burtmacklin » Mon Mar 10, 2014 1:09 pm

I'm gonna miss MVPB :cry:

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Re: 2015 USNWR T25 Pred. Cont. (LEEKS)

Postby itachiuchiha » Mon Mar 10, 2014 1:09 pm

thank god I was in at emory!

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Postby rad lulz » Mon Mar 10, 2014 1:09 pm

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Re: 2015 USNWR T25 Pred. Cont. (LEEKS)

Postby yarrow » Mon Mar 10, 2014 1:10 pm

Why did Georgetown and Cornell tie?




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