KJD and/or Weak Softs Thread

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What schools have you gotten in to?

Stanford
22
4%
Harvard
38
7%
Chicago
35
7%
Columbia
42
8%
NYU
68
13%
UVA/Penn
57
11%
Berkeley/Michigan
67
13%
Duke
85
16%
Cornell
39
7%
Georgetown
71
14%
 
Total votes: 524

xmbeckham
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Re: KJD and/or Weak Softs Thread

Postby xmbeckham » Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:15 am

Just wondering how would you define "weak softs." Sitting at home and doing (near) absolutely nothing?

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Quest4Knowledge
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Re: KJD and/or Weak Softs Thread

Postby Quest4Knowledge » Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:22 am

xmbeckham wrote:Just wondering how would you define "weak softs." Sitting at home and doing (near) absolutely nothing?


It's arbitrary, but I'd say yeah, that would qualify. Being a member of a few clubs (but no leadership involvement), little or no work experience, no real substantial extra curricular stuff during school would all be considered 'weak' softs imo.

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Re: KJD and/or Weak Softs Thread

Postby Jessasaurus » Thu Feb 06, 2014 12:27 pm

So I would have considered myself to be a k-jd with average softs...but then I only have a 171/3.75 and I got a JS1 which I never even expected. So I'm thinking there had to have been something in my softs they were interested in.

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Re: KJD and/or Weak Softs Thread

Postby redbull12 » Thu Feb 06, 2014 2:44 pm

xmbeckham wrote:Just wondering how would you define "weak softs." Sitting at home and doing (near) absolutely nothing?


lol.

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Re: KJD and/or Weak Softs Thread

Postby Brettanomyces » Fri Feb 07, 2014 1:48 am

xmbeckham wrote:Just wondering how would you define "weak softs." Sitting at home and doing (near) absolutely nothing?


If I'm at home, there's usually nothing weak/soft about me.

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Re: KJD and/or Weak Softs Thread

Postby Otunga » Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:57 am

Brettanomyces wrote:
xmbeckham wrote:Just wondering how would you define "weak softs." Sitting at home and doing (near) absolutely nothing?


If I'm at home, there's usually nothing weak/soft about me.


Classic.

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Re: KJD and/or Weak Softs Thread

Postby ScottRiqui » Fri Feb 07, 2014 10:25 am

Hey Scoobs! Just wanted to see if I'd burst into flames if I set foot in here!

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Re: KJD and/or Weak Softs Thread

Postby neprep » Fri Feb 07, 2014 11:03 am

ScottRiqui wrote:Hey Scoobs! Just wanted to see if I'd burst into flames if I set foot in here!


AreYouKiddingMe.gif

:|

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Re: KJD and/or Weak Softs Thread

Postby hippo-hapatamus » Fri Feb 07, 2014 12:26 pm

This is just my opinion which maybe no one else shares, but I think there are two major categories of softs. There's your softs that indicate you will be a good, conscientous lawyer (related WE, community service, leadership ability). And there's your softs that make you an interesting person to talk to (Military service, bilingual, member of a prominent Russian rap group, college athlete, etc).

The latter category doesn't really indicate that you're going to be a good lawyer, or even a good law student. But admitting interesting people raises the profile of the school, because it makes the school seem interesting. There's nothing worse than a school getting a reputation for graduating a bunch of boring nerds who do nothing but study. Instead of holding that elite institution in awe, people make fun of it.

My totally unsubstantiated theory is that a combination of both types of softs can take you further than any amount of softs from just one category. So that's how I see strong vs. weak softs--it's whether or not you can check both boxes: "interesting" and "shows promise". What do you guys think?

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Re: KJD and/or Weak Softs Thread

Postby Kimikho » Fri Feb 07, 2014 7:14 pm

ScottRiqui wrote:Hey Scoobs! Just wanted to see if I'd burst into flames if I set foot in here!


:lol: :lol: :lol:

ScottRiqui, you are welcomed everywhere!

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Re: KJD and/or Weak Softs Thread

Postby phillywc » Sat Feb 08, 2014 2:36 am

ScottRiqui wrote:Hey Scoobs! Just wanted to see if I'd burst into flames if I set foot in here!

Scott should be in every thread, tbqh.

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Re: KJD and/or Weak Softs Thread

Postby Quest4Knowledge » Sat Feb 08, 2014 2:19 pm

hippo-hapatamus wrote:My totally unsubstantiated theory is that a combination of both types of softs can take you further than any amount of softs from just one category. So that's how I see strong vs. weak softs--it's whether or not you can check both boxes: "interesting" and "shows promise". What do you guys think?


That makes sense, but I also think it's more than just being able to 'check both boxes'. I think if you have 'show promise' softs that are very challenging and rare, OR 'interesting' softs that are similarly rare and prestigious, you could still be considered having strong softs.

That being said, this is all quite arbitrary. I think if you have limited softs but are able to draft a compelling personal narrative, then depending on the reviewer it could be just as helpful as someone who has somewhat impressive softs but just lists them.

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Re: KJD and/or Weak Softs Thread

Postby Attax » Sat Feb 08, 2014 2:52 pm

ScottRiqui wrote:Hey Scoobs! Just wanted to see if I'd burst into flames if I set foot in here!


Boom goes the dynamite!

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Quest4Knowledge
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Re: KJD and/or Weak Softs Thread

Postby Quest4Knowledge » Mon Feb 10, 2014 5:07 pm

For those KJDs who have been accepted/had interviews, did your KJD status ever come up and how did you address it?

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Re: KJD and/or Weak Softs Thread

Postby Kimikho » Fri Feb 21, 2014 6:18 pm

Bumping this up.

Got Northwestern recently. It was a really small wave, so I waited a bit before posting.

8)

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Re: KJD and/or Weak Softs Thread

Postby Quest4Knowledge » Fri Feb 21, 2014 7:42 pm

scoobers wrote:Bumping this up.

Got Northwestern recently. It was a really small wave, so I waited a bit before posting.

8)


Congrats Scoobers! Very impressive!!!

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Re: KJD and/or Weak Softs Thread

Postby flyingboy » Fri Feb 21, 2014 7:43 pm

Quest4Knowledge wrote:For those KJDs who have been accepted/had interviews, did your KJD status ever come up and how did you address it?


Came up for both Harvard and Chicago. I just talked about how my academic and internship experiences relate to my interests in law. Just be honest and have a solid reason for going to law school instead of doing something else.

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Re: KJD and/or Weak Softs Thread

Postby odela » Mon Feb 24, 2014 3:21 am

Did many of you leave Northwestern (or their interview) out of your application cycle?

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Re: KJD and/or Weak Softs Thread

Postby bryanjbay12 » Mon Feb 24, 2014 3:32 am

odela wrote:Did many of you leave Northwestern (or their interview) out of your application cycle?


I did, not because of the interview or anything, but because my old boss (who's a family friend) just would not get the LOR in. I eventually just gave up on asking and decided not to apply.

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Re: KJD and/or Weak Softs Thread

Postby Kimikho » Mon Feb 24, 2014 12:02 pm

odela wrote:Did many of you leave Northwestern (or their interview) out of your application cycle?


Honestly? I wasn't aware of their emphasis on work experience when I initially applied :oops:

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Re: KJD and/or Weak Softs Thread

Postby winterorange » Mon Feb 24, 2014 1:08 pm

kellohitty wrote:KJD over here! Not only that, but I also crammed 4 years of undergrad into 3. I obviously like pain.

+1 or however many other people have done this. I should probably starting thinking of an articulate response to the inevitable question that will be asked about this.

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Re: KJD and/or Weak Softs Thread

Postby Attax » Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:08 pm

Bump. Deposited at Texas. Withdrew everywhere else but NU.

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Re: KJD and/or Weak Softs Thread

Postby hcrimson2014 » Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:15 pm

Quest4Knowledge wrote:For those KJDs who have been accepted/had interviews, did your KJD status ever come up and how did you address it?


Nope, but after getting accepted I was talking to their admissions office for advice as to what I should do to prepare for ls, the interviewer whom I am sure put in a good word for me because I wouldn't have been accepted otherwise told me to live life and get some real world experience.

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Re: KJD and/or Weak Softs Thread

Postby drawstring » Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:22 pm

I hope it's being a K-JD that has held me back. Better that than something else that is unclear to me....

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Re: KJD and/or Weak Softs Thread

Postby drawstring » Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:26 pm

Also, I've asked this question a few times and gotten different responses. If someone graduates in May, starts full time work immediately, then applies in September, is that a KJD or someone who has about a year and a half of WE (because that's what it will be upon matriculation).




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