KJD and/or Weak Softs Thread

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What schools have you gotten in to?

Stanford
22
4%
Harvard
38
7%
Chicago
35
7%
Columbia
42
8%
NYU
68
13%
UVA/Penn
57
11%
Berkeley/Michigan
67
13%
Duke
85
16%
Cornell
39
7%
Georgetown
71
14%
 
Total votes: 524

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Re: KJD and/or Weak Softs Thread

Postby Brettanomyces » Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:18 pm

redbull12 wrote:
Beercules wrote: Greek life


Fraternity is not a positive.


wut

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Re: KJD and/or Weak Softs Thread

Postby Kimikho » Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:18 pm

Beercules wrote:Gettin' in on the fun. Grade my softs:

Fraternity President
2 years WE as a paralegal
2 years Volunteer exp. at a hospital

Go.


Originally premed?

Where do your 2 years paralegal work experience come from? (ie, are you KJD or weak softs)

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Re: KJD and/or Weak Softs Thread

Postby Attax » Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:19 pm

K-JD here!

I feel that, for K-JD, I have really good softs.
Sponsored motorcycle rider
Licensed Skydiver
Headed up 2 advertising campaigns in the state, worked on multiple others
Interned with Fortune 500 CEO

3+ years working throughout school as:
Programmer
TA
Content Development for my School
Implementation of college prep activities
Lots of leadership experience with groups 500+
Starting own business as a freshman, ending it after graduation
Published research
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Re: KJD and/or Weak Softs Thread

Postby redbull12 » Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:19 pm

You guys really think T-14 Ad-coms weigh Greek life as a positive?

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Re: KJD and/or Weak Softs Thread

Postby redbull12 » Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:20 pm

PourMeTea wrote:But really, I don't understand why GDIs feel the need to bash greek leadership softs. Think of it as an on-campus philanthropic organization like any other. Better? Still on your high horse?


Half the fraternities at my uni got kicked out for drugs/hazing.

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Re: KJD and/or Weak Softs Thread

Postby anyriotgirl » Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:20 pm

redbull12 wrote:
Beercules wrote: Greek life


Fraternity is not a positive.


Just being in a fraternity isn't a positive, but I would argue that having some sort of substantive role in one counts about the same as a club leadership position would count. Source: I spun my sorority leadership position in my paralegal interview as an experience that would help me in wrangling attorneys into doing their work. I got a laugh and the job.

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Re: KJD and/or Weak Softs Thread

Postby kershka » Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:21 pm

Question for the people who checked the Stanford box in the poll.

How would you rate your softs? I want to know what it takes it get into SLS

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Re: KJD and/or Weak Softs Thread

Postby anyriotgirl » Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:21 pm

redbull12 wrote:
PourMeTea wrote:But really, I don't understand why GDIs feel the need to bash greek leadership softs. Think of it as an on-campus philanthropic organization like any other. Better? Still on your high horse?


Half the fraternities at my uni got kicked out for drugs/hazing.


Sounds like if biglaw had a babysitter org.

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Re: KJD and/or Weak Softs Thread

Postby Kimikho » Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:21 pm

redbull12 wrote:You guys really think T-14 Ad-coms weigh Greek life as a positive?


GDI, but pres of a fraternity is just as hard/many hours as pres of any other large, fundraising organization, only you also have to contend with alumni. And Greek participation probably helps during OCI, too, and someone who is in the Greek community probably interviews well. IMHO.

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Re: KJD and/or Weak Softs Thread

Postby redbull12 » Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:22 pm

anyriotgirl wrote:
redbull12 wrote:
Beercules wrote: Greek life


Fraternity is not a positive.


Just being in a fraternity isn't a positive, but I would argue that having some sort of substantive role in one counts about the same as a club leadership position would count. Source: I spun my sorority leadership position in my paralegal interview as an experience that would help me in wrangling attorneys into doing their work. I got a laugh and the job.



Sounds like Legally Blonde. Congrats!

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Re: KJD and/or Weak Softs Thread

Postby drawstring » Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:23 pm

So, does anyone think that having post-UG WE is slightly overrated. I mean, would I really bring much more to a law school if I worked for a year after UG, even if it's the exact same type of job I've done before?

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Re: KJD and/or Weak Softs Thread

Postby Attax » Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:23 pm

scoobers wrote:
redbull12 wrote:You guys really think T-14 Ad-coms weigh Greek life as a positive?


GDI, but pres of a fraternity is just as hard/many hours as pres of any other large, fundraising organization, only you also have to contend with alumni. And Greek participation probably helps during OCI, too, and someone who is in the Greek community probably interviews well. IMHO.


I am not greek, but I have friends who are and my perception is about 50% are relying on Mommy & Daddy to get them a sweet job after graduating. 40% Just wanted booze. 10% seem to use it as a legitimate social and networking opportunity with benefits of society and such what not. At least here.

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Re: KJD and/or Weak Softs Thread

Postby Beercules » Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:23 pm

scoobers wrote:
Beercules wrote:Gettin' in on the fun. Grade my softs:

Fraternity President
2 years WE as a paralegal
2 years Volunteer exp. at a hospital

Go.


Originally premed?

Where do your 2 years paralegal work experience come from? (ie, are you KJD or weak softs)


Affirmative.

2 Years WE are after undergrad. I fit into the weak/average/murky softs category, or so I think, if only for the sheer dearth of them.

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Re: KJD and/or Weak Softs Thread

Postby redbull12 » Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:24 pm

Attax wrote:
scoobers wrote:
redbull12 wrote:You guys really think T-14 Ad-coms weigh Greek life as a positive?


GDI, but pres of a fraternity is just as hard/many hours as pres of any other large, fundraising organization, only you also have to contend with alumni. And Greek participation probably helps during OCI, too, and someone who is in the Greek community probably interviews well. IMHO.


I am not greek, but I have friends who are and my perception is about 50% are relying on Mommy & Daddy to get them a sweet job after graduating. 40% Just wanted booze. 10% seem to use it as a legitimate social and networking opportunity with benefits of society and such what not. At least here.



TITCR

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Re: KJD and/or Weak Softs Thread

Postby Kimikho » Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:25 pm

drawstring wrote:So, does anyone think that having post-UG WE is slightly overrated. I mean, would I really bring much more to a law school if I worked for a year after UG, even if it's the exact same type of job I've done before?


I don't think post-grad WE is overrated, but I do think that if you have had that job before UG, it's important to stress that.

Part of the reason schools like post-grad WE is if it is in the legal field, so they know you know what you are getting in to. The other part is if it isn't at all, so they know you aren't going into law just to make your liberal arts degree worthwhile. I think it's more important to look at the reasons schools want the things they want vs. what helps more if that makes sense.

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Re: KJD and/or Weak Softs Thread

Postby Brettanomyces » Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:26 pm

drawstring wrote:So, does anyone think that having post-UG WE is slightly overrated. I mean, would I really bring much more to a law school if I worked for a year after UG, even if it's the exact same type of job I've done before?


IDK that it's that important as long as the rest of your softs are solid.
All the SLS students I've ever known in person have been K-JD.

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Re: KJD and/or Weak Softs Thread

Postby Kimikho » Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:26 pm

Beercules wrote:
scoobers wrote:
Beercules wrote:Gettin' in on the fun. Grade my softs:

Fraternity President
2 years WE as a paralegal
2 years Volunteer exp. at a hospital

Go.


Originally premed?

Where do your 2 years paralegal work experience come from? (ie, are you KJD or weak softs)


Affirmative.

2 Years WE are after undergrad. I fit into the weak/average/murky softs category, or so I think, if only for the sheer dearth of them.


Hmm. I think you fit firmly into average (for everyone, not just KJDs), but I also think that schools might look at your transcript and resume and see the "premed--->prelaw" transition, and worry that you are only doing it because you don't know what else to do.

The paralegal job probably helps a lot, though :]

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Re: KJD and/or Weak Softs Thread

Postby Kimikho » Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:27 pm

Brettanomyces wrote:
drawstring wrote:So, does anyone think that having post-UG WE is slightly overrated. I mean, would I really bring much more to a law school if I worked for a year after UG, even if it's the exact same type of job I've done before?


IDK that it's that important as long as the rest of your softs are solid.
All the SLS students I've ever known in person have been K-JD.


Same here. SLS seems to be more friendly to KJDs.

Also, U Chi does, too, at least based off my interview.

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Re: KJD and/or Weak Softs Thread

Postby Cal Trask » Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:27 pm

drawstring wrote:So, does anyone think that having post-UG WE is slightly overrated. I mean, would I really bring much more to a law school if I worked for a year after UG, even if it's the exact same type of job I've done before?


Maybe, maybe not. I'll have 2 years of WE under my belt upon starting in the fall and my cycle's gone far better this time around than two years ago. However, my WE looks fairly decent on a resume and weighing that against the sinking medians at many schools makes the answer unclear. It can't hurt you, that's for sure, but only an adcom, not anyone in this thread, will be able to provide an answer.

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Re: KJD and/or Weak Softs Thread

Postby anyriotgirl » Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:27 pm

redbull12 wrote:
Attax wrote:
scoobers wrote:
redbull12 wrote:You guys really think T-14 Ad-coms weigh Greek life as a positive?


GDI, but pres of a fraternity is just as hard/many hours as pres of any other large, fundraising organization, only you also have to contend with alumni. And Greek participation probably helps during OCI, too, and someone who is in the Greek community probably interviews well. IMHO.


I am not greek, but I have friends who are and my perception is about 50% are relying on Mommy & Daddy to get them a sweet job after graduating. 40% Just wanted booze. 10% seem to use it as a legitimate social and networking opportunity with benefits of society and such what not. At least here.



TITCR


Why are you flaming so hard on this one topic? I just looked at your post history and this isn't the first time you've done it. Why the specific vendetta against the Greek system?

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Re: KJD and/or Weak Softs Thread

Postby Kimikho » Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:28 pm

Let's not turn this into a debate about Greek participation, people. It's just one way of experiencing UG.

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Re: KJD and/or Weak Softs Thread

Postby redbull12 » Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:29 pm

scoobers wrote:Let's not turn this into a debate about Greek participation, people. It's just one way of experiencing UG.


Agreed.




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