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apologies as my circumstances are fairly unusual but i am curious to hear people's thoughts about my applications - how much does work experience count at top tier schools?
i am 36, have a first from oxford in the UK in history and economics but only scored a 166 in the lsat (december unfortunately so too late to retake) - however my career is pretty impressive. I spent 10 years at Merrill Lynch as derivative trader and rose to managing director and then ran a trading desk at Morgan Stanley for a couple of years? where should i be applying given my resume?
i am 36, have a first from oxford in the UK in history and economics but only scored a 166 in the lsat (december unfortunately so too late to retake) - however my career is pretty impressive. I spent 10 years at Merrill Lynch as derivative trader and rose to managing director and then ran a trading desk at Morgan Stanley for a couple of years? where should i be applying given my resume?
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Why law? And you can always retake. So with that, retake.
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Might do a little better than your numbers indicate, but that's doubtful.
Just keep the sweet job you have, the legal job market is rough.
Just keep the sweet job you have, the legal job market is rough.
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thanks for the replies thats interesting - every law school claims they are broader than numbers etc in their admissions but have always been sceptical - given MD at bank is equivalent to a partner at a major law firm its interesting how little value is attached?
why law? a change, what i always wanted to do but got sidetracked (though very pleasantly so i admit)
not too worried about a job upon graduation
why law? a change, what i always wanted to do but got sidetracked (though very pleasantly so i admit)
not too worried about a job upon graduation
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oh and i want to go law school this year so unfortunately too late to retake lsat - v frustrating! have already left wall street and theres only so much vacation i can take!
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apologies yes i have just applied last week - harvard, stanford, nyu, columbia, ucla, usc, and berkeley - waiting to hear now?
yes i was an MD at Merrill and Morgan Stanley in equity derivatives trading
am really curious how law schools will see my application and whether i should apply to some other schools given my background?
yes i was an MD at Merrill and Morgan Stanley in equity derivatives trading
am really curious how law schools will see my application and whether i should apply to some other schools given my background?
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interesting and very useful thank you - looks like i need to start rethinking my strategy! a little surprised that work experience and achievement as well as great undergrad doesn't do anything against an lsat score, but need to be realistic
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ha fair point - thanks for the feedback, very useful in figuring how to position myself in the right way - interviews would be interesting
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If you have a 3.8+ you have alright chances. Otherwise you're not giving schools much to work with in terms of numbers.
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yes exactly - i went to oxford in the uk and we don't have gpa's like you guys - i got a first which is the highest degree you can get and i would think it would look good but as you say it's not a number they can use
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My mistake.
Even though you've already applied and you're set on going this cycle, a retake can still help you if you find yourself wanting to get off some waitlists. That score is going to hold you back.
Even though you've already applied and you're set on going this cycle, a retake can still help you if you find yourself wanting to get off some waitlists. That score is going to hold you back.
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You're an x.xx 166, with we. T14 likely out, although some lower might bite. Usc should be easy admit. A toss up for ucla.
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ok that is thought - i didn't realize a better feb score would be considered if i get wait listed - a retake may well make sense in that case
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i'm very committed to attending law school this fall and next year really is a last resort - it seems like the best option is to apply to all the T-14 schools and hope that my distinct background and experience tips the balance at one of them - and perhaps retake in feb as i can't imagine getting a lower score (though i have learned that the worst can occur!)
thanks again for all your advice it is greatly appreciated
thanks again for all your advice it is greatly appreciated
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(Has impressive career handling other people's money.)
(Committed to making a bad decision with his own money.)
(Committed to making a bad decision with his own money.)
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As another poster said, I think you'd have a great shot at Northwestern. I'm not seeing the rest of the T14, though. Maybe GULC.
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Why? Do you have something lined up? A mountain of wealth?rochesterdive wrote:not too worried about a job upon graduation
I'd personally never do it, but I can see how it could make sense not to retake if a) you have something lined up, b) paying sticker is a drop in the bucket financially, c) you don't care about school prestige, and d) you're not expecting to work in a big firm after LS.
If that fits your description, GL in your cycle!
Otherwise, retaking is TCR.
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