Dec 2013 LSAT takers down 6.2%

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Dec 2013 LSAT takers down 6.2%

Postby altoid99 » Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:51 pm


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Re: Dec 2013 LSAT takers down 6.2%

Postby zman » Fri Jan 10, 2014 2:07 pm

It's still significant. Just want until 2013 class employment stats come up, fewer people will matriculate when they see the results.

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Re: Dec 2013 LSAT takers down 6.2%

Postby AT9 » Fri Jan 10, 2014 2:10 pm

zman wrote:It's still significant. Just want until 2013 class employment stats come up, fewer people will matriculate when they see the results.


Why is that? Are the stats expected to be worse than 11/12 or something?

Also, when do those stats come out?

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Re: Dec 2013 LSAT takers down 6.2%

Postby BLUERUFiO » Fri Jan 10, 2014 2:12 pm

Yes, when do those stats come out? I am so interested in the 2013 employment stats.

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Re: Dec 2013 LSAT takers down 6.2%

Postby ManoftheHour » Fri Jan 10, 2014 2:15 pm

That's pretty good man.

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Re: Dec 2013 LSAT takers down 6.2%

Postby ManoftheHour » Fri Jan 10, 2014 2:19 pm

lol, you realize that this is the lowest on the entire list right? From every year back to 1987, this is the record lowest number of takers in December. What more could you want?

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Re: Dec 2013 LSAT takers down 6.2%

Postby cotiger » Fri Jan 10, 2014 2:21 pm

ManoftheHour wrote:lol, you realize that this is the lowest on the entire list right? From every year back to 1987, this is the record lowest number of takers in December. What more could you want?


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Re: Dec 2013 LSAT takers down 6.2%

Postby altoid99 » Fri Jan 10, 2014 2:21 pm

ManoftheHour wrote:lol, you realize that this is the lowest on the entire list right? From every year back to 1987, this is the record lowest number of takers in December. What more could you want?


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Re: Dec 2013 LSAT takers down 6.2%

Postby ThetaX » Fri Jan 10, 2014 2:26 pm

vicpin5190 wrote:
altoid99 wrote:http://lsac.org/lsacresources/data/lsats-administered

I was expecting a bigger drop, tbh.



This makes some sense to me actually. Apps and applicants are dropping but on the flip side, the December administration is no longer putting you "late in the game" for a lot of schools. If December is usually lower than October, I could see retakers keeping that percentage drop from being lower than expected.

just my tree fiddy.


I'm with you on this. Considering the Retake mantra, a 6.2% drop is quite solid.

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Re: Dec 2013 LSAT takers down 6.2%

Postby cotiger » Fri Jan 10, 2014 2:40 pm

ThetaX wrote:
vicpin5190 wrote:
altoid99 wrote:http://lsac.org/lsacresources/data/lsats-administered

I was expecting a bigger drop, tbh.



This makes some sense to me actually. Apps and applicants are dropping but on the flip side, the December administration is no longer putting you "late in the game" for a lot of schools. If December is usually lower than October, I could see retakers keeping that percentage drop from being lower than expected.

just my tree fiddy.


I'm with you on this. Considering the Retake mantra, a 6.2% drop is quite solid.


Meh, I'm not sure that it's any stronger than it would have been last year. Though the idea that Dec/Jan submissions are no longer late I could see being a relevant change.

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Re: Dec 2013 LSAT takers down 6.2%

Postby zman » Fri Jan 10, 2014 2:49 pm

AT9 wrote:
zman wrote:It's still significant. Just want until 2013 class employment stats come up, fewer people will matriculate when they see the results.


Why is that? Are the stats expected to be worse than 11/12 or something?

Also, when do those stats come out?


Remember class of 2013 had the most matriculants ever. Even if the job market was as good and even a little better than 11/12 it would still be really bad.

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Re: Dec 2013 LSAT takers down 6.2%

Postby d cooper » Fri Jan 10, 2014 2:55 pm

It's down 44% from the December 2009 LSAT. That's huge.

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Re: Dec 2013 LSAT takers down 6.2%

Postby nothingtosee » Fri Jan 10, 2014 3:02 pm

GOOD NEWS

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Re: Dec 2013 LSAT takers down 6.2%

Postby AT9 » Fri Jan 10, 2014 3:14 pm

zman wrote:
AT9 wrote:
zman wrote:It's still significant. Just want until 2013 class employment stats come up, fewer people will matriculate when they see the results.


Why is that? Are the stats expected to be worse than 11/12 or something?

Also, when do those stats come out?


Remember class of 2013 had the most matriculants ever. Even if the job market was as good and even a little better than 11/12 it would still be really bad.


Ah, I was not aware of that little fact. Makes sense.

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Re: Dec 2013 LSAT takers down 6.2%

Postby jlk411 » Fri Jan 10, 2014 3:51 pm

cotiger wrote:
ManoftheHour wrote:lol, you realize that this is the lowest on the entire list right? From every year back to 1987, this is the record lowest number of takers in December. What more could you want?


MOAR BLOOD!


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Re: Dec 2013 LSAT takers down 6.2%

Postby jk148706 » Fri Jan 10, 2014 6:56 pm

Here's my question.. How many of those ppl taking Dec are retakers? TLS and other websites have emphasized how important a good LSAT score is and it seems more and more ppl are retaking.

So I wonder if the number if UNIQUE test takers is down even more than in past cycles. I'm guessing there is no way to know.

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Re: Dec 2013 LSAT takers down 6.2%

Postby Winston1984 » Fri Jan 10, 2014 8:04 pm

jk148706 wrote:Here's my question.. How many of those ppl taking Dec are retakers? TLS and other websites have emphasized how important a good LSAT score is and it seems more and more ppl are retaking.

So I wonder if the number if UNIQUE test takers is down even more than in past cycles. I'm guessing there is no way to know.


Good question. Interested as well if anyone can answer this. Spivey maybe?

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Re: Dec 2013 LSAT takers down 6.2%

Postby phillywc » Fri Jan 10, 2014 8:22 pm

Unique test takers is released eventually, but not right away IIRC. Spivey probably knows. Man knows all.

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Re: Dec 2013 LSAT takers down 6.2%

Postby Creditisgood » Fri Jan 10, 2014 10:15 pm

Somebody knows the break down for first time takers?
In Oct first time takers -13pct, first time and retakers -10pct.

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Re: Dec 2013 LSAT takers down 6.2%

Postby Clearly » Fri Jan 10, 2014 11:17 pm

I just talked to Spivey, he is going to look into it after he gets over his depression from having just watched lone survivor.

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Re: Dec 2013 LSAT takers down 6.2%

Postby Creditisgood » Fri Jan 10, 2014 11:41 pm

I just talked to Spivey, he is going to look into it after he gets over his depression from having just watched lone survivor.


Thanks.

I am recommending a couple of Shark Tank episodes against depression. Couldn't pull my self away.

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Re: Dec 2013 LSAT takers down 6.2%

Postby BillsFan9907 » Sat Jan 11, 2014 7:28 am

So are there solid grounds for us to say that those applying in January are no longer at a major disadvantage?

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Re: Dec 2013 LSAT takers down 6.2%

Postby MikeSpivey » Sat Jan 11, 2014 12:32 pm

Creditisgood wrote:
I just talked to Spivey, he is going to look into it after he gets over his depression from having just watched lone survivor.


Thanks.

I am recommending a couple of Shark Tank episodes against depression. Couldn't pull my self away.


That is a wonderful idea. I think I'll do just that today --love that show. In fact, Karen and I are going to do a video spoof of it...."but...but please give us $10 million we are so passionate we love our business..." I've also asked people to try to dig up the retake/first-time split for you guys. Hopefully someone has it already.
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