AD1818 wrote:McGruff wrote:AD1818 wrote:Sure, I can't PROVE I am right anymore than you all can prove you are. But the fact that SO many people score way below 170 is quite telling.
Another cool thing about getting better at the LSAT is that your arguments would eventually be less sloppy than this.
edit: sorry, that was dickish of me.AD1818 wrote:Fwiw, I have only gotten every question right in a properly timed games section a few times. That's right. And I have taken more of these than I can count. I am not trying to be dramatic. Usually I just have to guess on a bunch because I run out of time. I agree that the skills of the logic games are completely learnable. As I said, I can do all of them. I just don't agree that they are necessarily learnable inside of 35 minutes, not unless they get significantly easier.
Just to suggest a method you might not have tried, my time didn't get really good until I started using the 7sage method (same game, several times in a row, shaving 10, 20 seconds off each time) and focusing on REALLY blazing through parts of the setup and hypos. Like, how-can-I-possibly-move-my-pencil-any-faster fast. Same game over and over again, even if it feels pointless because you remember the answers. A lot of speed, in that part of the test, is actually physical. More muscle memory than people think, imo.
I have taken the entire 7sage course. It was in fact pointless for me in many ways to use J.Y.'s method of doing the games over and over again, since I'd memorize all the answers by the 3rd or 4th try, and found I wasn't relying on my skills of logic anymore, but my memory, which is excellent.
It's part of the reason I hate taking practice tests I've already took, because I often will remember the answers to random questions and it really cheapens the experience, since it messes with time and creates a scenario that won't happen on test day.
If you're answering the questions based on remembering the answer, you're doing it wrong. Even if you remember the answer, force yourself to think through the method of figuring it out again.