4.0 University GPA and 3.38 LSAC GPA - Advice Needed!

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4.0 University GPA and 3.38 LSAC GPA - Advice Needed!

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Re: 4.0 University GPA and 3.38 LSAC GPA - Advice Needed!

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Re: 4.0 University GPA and 3.38 LSAC GPA - Advice Needed!

Postby Harry Belafonte » Thu Oct 24, 2013 10:40 am

You have nothing to lose by contacting the student services of your overseas university and seeing if they are willing to help you mitigate the damage these Fs are doing.

I would try it, because otherwise you're basically stuck. Try to make peace with your new GPA and do your best on the LSAT.

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Re: 4.0 University GPA and 3.38 LSAC GPA - Advice Needed!

Postby AnonymousAlterEgoC » Thu Oct 24, 2013 10:44 am

An addendum will help, but adcomms have their hands tied because the number for the rankings is the cumulative number. As far as predictor goes, you're probably safe to use a number like 3.5, but that's hard to say. Score well on the LSAT and you can still go T6 but not T3 (unless you're a URM).

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Re: 4.0 University GPA and 3.38 LSAC GPA - Advice Needed!

Postby midwest17 » Thu Oct 24, 2013 10:54 am

Have you actually had LSAC calculate your GPA, or just done it yourself? I don't want to raise your hopes, but I know that the way LSAC handles international transcripts is odd. It's possible that those grades won't affect your LSAC GPA.

I'd recommend calling LSAC and asking them, and if you can't get a straight answer then just pay for CAS and send in your transcripts. It's good for 5 years, even if you aren't planning on applying this cycle.

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Re: 4.0 University GPA and 3.38 LSAC GPA - Advice Needed!

Postby twenty » Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:33 am

You actually may be okay as long as this country wasn't Canada.

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Re: 4.0 University GPA and 3.38 LSAC GPA - Advice Needed!

Postby october » Thu Oct 24, 2013 12:12 pm

midwest17 wrote:Have you actually had LSAC calculate your GPA, or just done it yourself? I don't want to raise your hopes, but I know that the way LSAC handles international transcripts is odd. It's possible that those grades won't affect your LSAC GPA.

I'd recommend calling LSAC and asking them, and if you can't get a straight answer then just pay for CAS and send in your transcripts. It's good for 5 years, even if you aren't planning on applying this cycle.


Midwest, I haven't sent in my transcripts yet, I just calculated the above GPA by myself. I'm gonna call LSAC later today and see what they say about my situation.

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Re: 4.0 University GPA and 3.38 LSAC GPA - Advice Needed!

Postby october » Thu Oct 24, 2013 12:16 pm

twentypercentmore wrote:You actually may be okay as long as this country wasn't Canada.


The university wasn't located in Canada, it was in Asia. Do the rules differ from country to country?

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Re: 4.0 University GPA and 3.38 LSAC GPA - Advice Needed!

Postby twenty » Thu Oct 24, 2013 12:55 pm

october wrote:
twentypercentmore wrote:You actually may be okay as long as this country wasn't Canada.


The university wasn't located in Canada, it was in Asia. Do the rules differ from country to country?


No, it's more of an "everywhere but Canada" thing.

The good news is, you are almost definitely "safe" from a 3.38 as long as a US institution didn't award you those grades. You'll potentially get a bad rating on your foreign undergrad work, but that's easily fixed with an addendum. For all purposes (minus Y/S), you'll have an LSAC 4.0. Probably.

Sign up for the CAS. Good luck.

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Re: 4.0 University GPA and 3.38 LSAC GPA - Advice Needed!

Postby october » Thu Oct 24, 2013 2:26 pm

UPDATE: "twentypercentmore" was correct, I just talked to a LSAC representative and they told me that my overseas course grades would NOT be considered in my LSAC undergrad GPA, however, admission committees will be able to see these grades in my application. So essentially my LSAC GPA will be 3.95 with a really crappy overseas record, which will be explained through an addendum. I'll definitely take that over a 3.38.

Thank you for all your responses everyone, I really appreciate them.

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Re: 4.0 University GPA and 3.38 LSAC GPA - Advice Needed!

Postby drawstring » Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:54 pm

Congrats man.

I would go crazy if I had a near perfect GPA dropped to 3.38.

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Re: 4.0 University GPA and 3.38 LSAC GPA - Advice Needed!

Postby Brettanomyces » Thu Oct 24, 2013 5:10 pm

I have a friend who took some online courses through some random institution and somehow those grades came through an overseas university, even though the online college was technically in the U.S. He was sure that the few Fs were going to sink his GPA, so he was sure he'd have to apply outside the T20. They didn't count those grades. He's at a T6 now.

CAS can be pretty random sometimes.

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Re: 4.0 University GPA and 3.38 LSAC GPA - Advice Needed!

Postby ganja » Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:38 pm

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Re: 4.0 University GPA and 3.38 LSAC GPA - Advice Needed!

Postby Nova » Thu Oct 24, 2013 9:42 pm

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Re: 4.0 University GPA and 3.38 LSAC GPA - Advice Needed!

Postby hcrimson2014 » Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:17 am

twentypercentmore wrote:
october wrote:
twentypercentmore wrote:You actually may be okay as long as this country wasn't Canada.


The university wasn't located in Canada, it was in Asia. Do the rules differ from country to country?


No, it's more of an "everywhere but Canada" thing.

The good news is, you are almost definitely "safe" from a 3.38 as long as a US institution didn't award you those grades. You'll potentially get a bad rating on your foreign undergrad work, but that's easily fixed with an addendum. For all purposes (minus Y/S), you'll have an LSAC 4.0. Probably.

Sign up for the CAS. Good luck.


Coming from Canada, may I ask you to elaborate on this "everywhere but Canada" thing? thanks

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Re: 4.0 University GPA and 3.38 LSAC GPA - Advice Needed!

Postby 2x2Matrix » Sun Oct 27, 2013 8:58 pm

hcrimson2014 wrote:
twentypercentmore wrote:
october wrote:
twentypercentmore wrote:You actually may be okay as long as this country wasn't Canada.


The university wasn't located in Canada, it was in Asia. Do the rules differ from country to country?


No, it's more of an "everywhere but Canada" thing.

The good news is, you are almost definitely "safe" from a 3.38 as long as a US institution didn't award you those grades. You'll potentially get a bad rating on your foreign undergrad work, but that's easily fixed with an addendum. For all purposes (minus Y/S), you'll have an LSAC 4.0. Probably.

Sign up for the CAS. Good luck.


Coming from Canada, may I ask you to elaborate on this "everywhere but Canada" thing? thanks


CAS converts Canadian transcripts with the same scale it converts US transcripts (on the 4.33 scale). Any other international transcript is not summarized on this scale.




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