C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby cannibal ox » Fri Sep 13, 2013 12:34 pm

manofjustice wrote:Do we have a google doc to track new medians?


altoid99 wrote:Here is a google doc if anyone wants to go crazy with it: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuH-BqWULdrxdGRLd2hBdm5NVHlMY3VqN2Y0QXdXZnc#gid=0

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby ScottRiqui » Fri Sep 13, 2013 12:36 pm

manofjustice wrote:Do we have a google doc to track new medians?


In the first post, if you're talking about 2016 medians:

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby manofjustice » Fri Sep 13, 2013 12:42 pm

ScottRiqui wrote:
manofjustice wrote:Do we have a google doc to track new medians?


In the first post, if you're talking about 2016 medians:


Oh shit...thanks!

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby TheJanitor6203 » Fri Sep 13, 2013 1:16 pm

The medians could be slightly different but Harvard lists their 50th percentiles for C/O 2016 as 3.88 and 173

http://www.law.harvard.edu/prospective/ ... ofile.html

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby cotiger » Fri Sep 13, 2013 1:32 pm

TheJanitor6203 wrote:The medians could be slightly different but Harvard lists their 50th percentiles for C/O 2016 as 3.88 and 173

http://www.law.harvard.edu/prospective/ ... ofile.html


50th percentile is what a median is.

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby TheJanitor6203 » Fri Sep 13, 2013 1:41 pm

cotiger wrote:
TheJanitor6203 wrote:The medians could be slightly different but Harvard lists their 50th percentiles for C/O 2016 as 3.88 and 173

http://www.law.harvard.edu/prospective/ ... ofile.html


50th percentile is what a median is.

Interesting.. all this time I thought the percentile was an average.

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby hephaestus » Fri Sep 13, 2013 2:02 pm

TheJanitor6203 wrote:
cotiger wrote:
TheJanitor6203 wrote:The medians could be slightly different but Harvard lists their 50th percentiles for C/O 2016 as 3.88 and 173

http://www.law.harvard.edu/prospective/ ... ofile.html


50th percentile is what a median is.

Interesting.. all this time I thought the percentile was an average.

No, thats a mean. The median is the 50th percentile.

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby cotiger » Fri Sep 13, 2013 2:04 pm

TheJanitor6203 wrote:
cotiger wrote:
TheJanitor6203 wrote:The medians could be slightly different but Harvard lists their 50th percentiles for C/O 2016 as 3.88 and 173

http://www.law.harvard.edu/prospective/ ... ofile.html


50th percentile is what a median is.

Interesting.. all this time I thought the percentile was an average.


If a score is in the xth percentile, that means that that score is greater than x% of all other scores. That's why even a 180 on the LSAT is only the 99.9th percentile. To be completely accurate, schools use quartiles instead of percentiles, but it's close enough to the same thing.

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby Huskies13! » Fri Sep 13, 2013 2:14 pm

Penn is up (don't think I saw this here yet)
https://www.law.upenn.edu/admissions/jd ... rofile.php
no medians but class size is 251.

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby Huskies13! » Fri Sep 13, 2013 2:22 pm

Rutgers (Newark)
http://law.newark.rutgers.edu/quick-facts
No medians--195 entering class

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby Humbert Humbert » Fri Sep 13, 2013 2:25 pm

TheJanitor6203 wrote:The medians could be slightly different but Harvard lists their 50th percentiles for C/O 2016 as 3.88 and 173

http://www.law.harvard.edu/prospective/ ... ofile.html


Those numbers are identical to c/o 2015, are they not?. Even 25/50/75 GPAs.

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby Huskies13! » Fri Sep 13, 2013 2:28 pm

Ohio State--no class size
http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/admissions/jd/

160 (-2) LSAT
3.65 (+.01?)

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby TheJanitor6203 » Fri Sep 13, 2013 2:58 pm

I got bored at work...

(56) American U 157/3.42/397
(61) Pepperdine 160/3.59/201
(68) University of Louisville 155/3.31/130
(68) University of Nevada- Las Vegas 158/3.45/114
(94) Marquette 155/3.29/193FT/19PT
(98) University of South Carolina 155/3.27/208
(98) St. John’s University 156/3.39/263
(>100) DePaul University 154
(>100) Gonzaga University 154/3.26/108
(>100) William Mitchell College of Law 153/3.36
(>100) University of San Francisco 158/3.8

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby wolfgang » Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:26 pm

TheJanitor6203 wrote:(>100) University of San Francisco 158/3.8


^ Not to be a bother, but I hope that was a typo :)

Looks like university of san francisco's 50th is 3.38.

Yeah... my 3 key doesn't work that well, either. But you gave me a heart attack for a hot second there!

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby TheJanitor6203 » Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:35 pm

wolfgang wrote:
TheJanitor6203 wrote:(>100) University of San Francisco 158/3.8


^ Not to be a bother, but I hope that was a typo :)

Looks like university of san francisco's 50th is 3.38.

Yeah... my 3 key doesn't work that well, either. But you gave me a heart attack for a hot second there!

Lol sorry about that

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby ScottRiqui » Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:47 pm

I asked this in a different thread, but didn't get any traction:

Does it say anything about a school or its admission strategy when the median and 75th percentile LSAT scores are extremely close to one another compared to the 25th percentile and the median? Something like 161/166/167?

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby TheJanitor6203 » Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:50 pm

Found a few more..

(19) Minnesota- Twin Cities 167/3.8/205
(48) Florida State University 159/3.51/170
Drake Law 153/3.23/113
Mercer Law 152/3.38/187
CUNY 154/3.37/104
Florida International 156/3.58/135
Howard 154/3.4

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby Ramius » Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:53 pm

ScottRiqui wrote:I asked this in a different thread, but didn't get any traction:

Does it say anything about a school or its admission strategy when the median and 75th percentile LSAT scores are extremely close to one another compared to the 25th percentile and the median? Something like 161/166/167?


Generally speaking I think this is indicative of heavy median gaming. If both your median and 75th are almost identical and the 25th is significantly lower, it shows splitters and reverse splitters were heavily utilized to maintain the median numbers where they are.

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby Tiago Splitter » Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:54 pm

ScottRiqui wrote:I asked this in a different thread, but didn't get any traction:

Does it say anything about a school or its admission strategy when the median and 75th percentile LSAT scores are extremely close to one another compared to the 25th percentile and the median? Something like 161/166/167?

It means they game the rankings. Not necessarily anything wrong with that, but schools with those kinds of breakdowns are clearly trying to get the highest possible LSAT/GPA medians.

3.8/167 for Minnesota is impressive. BTW, Minnesota is a classic rankings gamer, with splits of 158/167/168 and 3.36/3.8/3.89.

EDIT: Minnesota's numbers are still for last year.

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby Nova » Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:55 pm

Those Minnesota numbers are from my class. (2015)

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby Nova » Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:56 pm

+1 to tiago and matt

Gaming medians.

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby Ramius » Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:01 pm

matthewsean85 wrote:
ScottRiqui wrote:I asked this in a different thread, but didn't get any traction:

Does it say anything about a school or its admission strategy when the median and 75th percentile LSAT scores are extremely close to one another compared to the 25th percentile and the median? Something like 161/166/167?


Generally speaking I think this is indicative of heavy median gaming. If both your median and 75th are almost identical and the 25th is significantly lower, it shows splitters and reverse splitters people who should have retaken were heavily utilized to maintain the median numbers where they are.


Had to fix that for myself.

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby wolfgang » Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:10 pm

TheJanitor6203 wrote:Found a few more..

(19) Minnesota- Twin Cities 167/3.8/205
(48) Florida State University 159/3.51/170
Drake Law 153/3.23/113
Mercer Law 152/3.38/187
CUNY 154/3.37/104
Florida International 156/3.58/135
Howard 154/3.4


crap man. killer work, thanks!

singlehandedly doing all the research for this thread. awesome

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby Nova » Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:14 pm

Yeah, thx Jan.

TLSing on the clock rocks, amirite?

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby jbagelboy » Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:30 pm

UMN couldnt have stuck a 167 median the way they were throwing out splitter $ offers to 166 and 165




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