C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby BigZuck » Mon Sep 09, 2013 6:36 pm

Dmini7 wrote:Anyone from the schools who haven't posted their numbers been told their medians/class size. Maybe during orientation or convocation? Particularly interested in NU, Texas Minn and GWU


Texas' class size on the first day of orientation was 322. No mention of medians.

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby Nova » Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:20 pm

No mention of medians at UMNs orientation either

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby Humbert Humbert » Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:24 pm

Monochromatic Oeuvre wrote:
jbagelboy wrote:
sinfiery wrote:
Monochromatic Oeuvre wrote:Here at Columbia you can try some of our world-famous coffee. The beans are picked in fields right outside the school and they brew the cup right there, then they deliver it your apartment by hand. I even saw the guy bring him a little baggie of sugar to put in his coffee. It must have cost extra, that's probably why he had his credit card out.

...just doin' my part.

I went to CLS one day and thought I left NYC. The village is the best place ever. If the schools were in opposite areas, I'm pretty sure it would be like a 174/165 median LSAT distribution in favor of CLS.

Don't worry though, you can come join me in 3 years

also I hope NYLS dies.


My gf goes to school at NYU; I was down there several days last week. We're both glad we're living in Morningside; the village is awesome, truly, but its claustrophobic and insane. I would be pretty overwhelmed in that environment.. I suppose its a personality thing, but the relative quiet and seclusion of the Columbia campus and the upper west location is actually a positive for a lot of students


I'm with bagelboy (but of course I would be, because we're both uptown). Morningside is meh for me, but the Village was a big minus. Part of why I turned down $25k there and jumped at lolsticker here (along with the fact that I'm a shameless preftige whore). Below Central Park it gets uncomfortably busy for me--it's the only place in the world I feel claustrophobic outdoors. Morningside feels a little more suburban, but I sort of like that. I mean, people didn't get shot two blocks away from my house in the suburbs, but whatever.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... rlH9o#t=21

21 second mark

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby Dmini7 » Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:00 pm

Chapman law has posted their data (I don't want to screw the table up so i wont try adding it)

http://www.chapman.edu/law/about/student-profile.aspx

HUGE drop in applications for them, but they did hold their LSAT scores (had a pretty significant drop in GPA though)

and here is Mcgeorge(unsure if this should be counted at 130 students or 280...)
http://www.mcgeorge.edu/Future_Students ... rofile.htm

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby 04102014 » Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:24 pm

Michigan posted more entering class info, for those into that type of thing.

http://www.law.umich.edu/prospectivestu ... stics.aspx

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby dstars823 » Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:28 pm

nothing here from us at NU yet

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby Yukos » Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:59 pm

No mention of anything at SLS.

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby Monochromatic Oeuvre » Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:04 pm

Dmini7 wrote:and here is Mcgeorge(unsure if this should be counted at 130 students or 280...)
http://www.mcgeorge.edu/Future_Students ... rofile.htm


Would be 162 (130+32), no?

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby Dmini7 » Tue Sep 10, 2013 12:29 am

Monochromatic Oeuvre wrote:
Dmini7 wrote:and here is Mcgeorge(unsure if this should be counted at 130 students or 280...)
http://www.mcgeorge.edu/Future_Students ... rofile.htm


Would be 162 (130+32), no?


Oh god, sorry for that oversight, I was confused as to why the part-time class was so much larger. I didn't realize that was how many applications they had haha.

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby prettyyoungtthing » Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:51 am

Anyone know BU, BC, UMinn, Cornell, or Northwestern?

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby Lavitz » Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:18 am

prettyyoungtthing wrote:Anyone know BU, BC, UMinn, Cornell, or Northwestern?

Cornell is in the spreadsheet.

And I don't know who put those UMN numbers in the spreadsheet, but it looks like those are the c/o 2015 numbers.

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby Huskies13! » Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:52 am

Buffalo posted--boy have they fallen!

154 LSAT (-2)
3.48 (-.03)
199 enroll (-3 or so)

http://www.law.buffalo.edu/admissions/classProfile.html

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby AlanShore » Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:53 am

Lavitz wrote:
prettyyoungtthing wrote:Anyone know BU, BC, UMinn, Cornell, or Northwestern?

Cornell is in the spreadsheet.

And I don't know who put those UMN numbers in the spreadsheet, but it looks like those are the c/o 2015 numbers.

nothing from BC yet except our class size went down 15 (245 to 230)

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby kay2016 » Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:56 am

Bama has still released no word on LSAT.

I know GPA went up but they didn't give us exact numbers.

Class is at 147 or 148. They said 147 at Orientation but the directory for students says 148. Either way it's a slight drop.

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

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Postby Huskies13! » Tue Sep 10, 2013 12:02 pm

And St. John's
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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby MikeSpivey » Tue Sep 10, 2013 12:18 pm

Archangel wrote:
Monochromatic Oeuvre wrote:
jbagelboy wrote:Lol @ the Penn/NYU back and forth.

I will say that with both schools (likely) at 170 and Penn with the gpa & raw employment advantage, we're looking at a tie-up at 6th at least


Can someone link the raw data USNWR component table again? (I can't find it) I'm curious to see if NYU would be in any danger of sharing sixth, because my first instinct was that the other bullshit would hold them up. After all, both Penn and UVA had Stanford's medians for a while but couldn't sniff them, and Michigan has been behind Duke and Northwestern in every category I can think of except the all-important "reputational scores given by some 65-year old not-involved-in-hiring partner based entirely on the reputations of those schools in 1972" metric.


This could be what your looking for, http://www.tomwbell.com/images/USNews'1 ... Scores.gif and remember the metrics are being changed this year so this could add to shifts in USNWR in the coming year, http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 3#p6912933 .


Does anyone with a magnifying glass know what the second to last category is? Obviously they are sorted left to right by weight so I could reverse engineer what it is, but I thought I would ask and observe that Yale's getting a free six hundredths of a percent on that one... Yale's at 0.07, and no one else is even close.
I think that category may be "Is Yale."

(Note: Columbia correctly receives the second-highest score in the category of "Is Yale.")

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby ScottRiqui » Tue Sep 10, 2013 12:31 pm

MikeSpivey wrote:
Archangel wrote:
Monochromatic Oeuvre wrote:
jbagelboy wrote:Lol @ the Penn/NYU back and forth.

I will say that with both schools (likely) at 170 and Penn with the gpa & raw employment advantage, we're looking at a tie-up at 6th at least


Can someone link the raw data USNWR component table again? (I can't find it) I'm curious to see if NYU would be in any danger of sharing sixth, because my first instinct was that the other bullshit would hold them up. After all, both Penn and UVA had Stanford's medians for a while but couldn't sniff them, and Michigan has been behind Duke and Northwestern in every category I can think of except the all-important "reputational scores given by some 65-year old not-involved-in-hiring partner based entirely on the reputations of those schools in 1972" metric.


This could be what your looking for, http://www.tomwbell.com/images/USNews'1 ... Scores.gif and remember the metrics are being changed this year so this could add to shifts in USNWR in the coming year, viewtopic.php?f=1&t=212696&p=6912933#p6912933 .


Does anyone with a magnifying glass know what the second to last category is? Obviously they are sorted left to right by weight so I could reverse engineer what it is, but I thought I would ask and observe that Yale's getting a free six hundredths of a percent on that one... Yale's at 0.07, and no one else is even close.
I think that category may be "Is Yale."

(Note: Columbia correctly receives the second-highest score in the category of "Is Yale.")



It looks like "Fin$/Stu x 1.5%". So financial aid per student, times a weighting factor of 1.5%?

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby jump_man » Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:52 pm

Hastings just released the numbers:

Class of 2015:
LSAT 75th = 165, Median = 162, 25th = 158
LSAT Range = 141 to 173
GPA 75th = 3.75, Median = 3.59, 25th = 3.29
GPA Range = 2.05 to 4.11
Class Size = 317
Source

Class of 2016:
LSAT 75th = 163 (-2), Median = 159 (-3), 25th = 155 (-3)
LSAT Range = 141 to 173
GPA 75th = 3.69 (-0.06), Median = 3.52 (-0.07), 25th = 3.28 (-0.01)
GPA Range = 2.31 to 4.00
Class Size = 331 (+14)
Source

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby 04102014 » Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:55 pm

Crazy how big some of these median drops have been at non-T14s. Not unexpected obviously, but still crazy to actually see.

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby BigZuck » Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:03 pm

jump_man wrote:Hastings just released the numbers:

Class of 2015:
LSAT 75th = 165, Median = 162, 25th = 158
LSAT Range = 141 to 173
GPA 75th = 3.75, Median = 3.59, 25th = 3.29
GPA Range = 2.05 to 4.11
Class Size = 317
Source

Class of 2016:
LSAT 75th = 163 (-2), Median = 159 (-3), 25th = 155 (-3)
LSAT Range = 141 to 173
GPA 75th = 3.69 (-0.06), Median = 3.52 (-0.07), 25th = 3.28 (-0.01)
GPA Range = 2.31 to 4.00
Class Size = 331 (+14)
Source


Take a colossal dive (dump?) and then also raise class size?

Bravo Hastings

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby ManoftheHour » Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:08 pm

BigZuck wrote:
jump_man wrote:Hastings just released the numbers:

Class of 2015:
LSAT 75th = 165, Median = 162, 25th = 158
LSAT Range = 141 to 173
GPA 75th = 3.75, Median = 3.59, 25th = 3.29
GPA Range = 2.05 to 4.11
Class Size = 317
Source

Class of 2016:
LSAT 75th = 163 (-2), Median = 159 (-3), 25th = 155 (-3)
LSAT Range = 141 to 173
GPA 75th = 3.69 (-0.06), Median = 3.52 (-0.07), 25th = 3.28 (-0.01)
GPA Range = 2.31 to 4.00
Class Size = 331 (+14)
Source


Take a colossal dive (dump?) and then also raise class size?

Bravo Hastings


UC HasTTTTings. It's incredible how just sitting out one cycle, I've gone from median to 75th percentile for this school.

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby jump_man » Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:09 pm

BigZuck wrote:
jump_man wrote:Hastings just released the numbers:

Class of 2015:
LSAT 75th = 165, Median = 162, 25th = 158
LSAT Range = 141 to 173
GPA 75th = 3.75, Median = 3.59, 25th = 3.29
GPA Range = 2.05 to 4.11
Class Size = 317
Source

Class of 2016:
LSAT 75th = 163 (-2), Median = 159 (-3), 25th = 155 (-3)
LSAT Range = 141 to 173
GPA 75th = 3.69 (-0.06), Median = 3.52 (-0.07), 25th = 3.28 (-0.01)
GPA Range = 2.31 to 4.00
Class Size = 331 (+14)
Source


Take a colossal dive (dump?) and then also raise class size?

Bravo Hastings


I think the increase in class size was necessary to maintain operating expenses. It's crazy to think that Hastings' median LSAT has fallen five points in three years, though not entirely unexpected given the state of things.

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby Robespierre » Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:14 pm

OP in this thread says UVa class is smaller this year; Spreadsheet says it's bigger. Which is correct?

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby jingosaur » Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:52 pm

jump_man wrote:Hastings just released the numbers:

Class of 2015:
LSAT 75th = 165, Median = 162, 25th = 158
LSAT Range = 141 to 173
GPA 75th = 3.75, Median = 3.59, 25th = 3.29
GPA Range = 2.05 to 4.11
Class Size = 317
Source

Class of 2016:
LSAT 75th = 163 (-2), Median = 159 (-3), 25th = 155 (-3)
LSAT Range = 141 to 173
GPA 75th = 3.69 (-0.06), Median = 3.52 (-0.07), 25th = 3.28 (-0.01)
GPA Range = 2.31 to 4.00
Class Size = 331 (+14)
Source


Hastings boosted its GPA floor from 2.00 to 2.30 and STILL increased class size?!?!?




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