C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby jbagelboy » Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:40 pm

Monochromatic Oeuvre wrote:
milkandcheerios wrote:a somewhat random question here, but does anyone know why Columbia and NYU have relatively low GPA medians (especially CLS) compared to their peer schools? And not only peer schools, but also with many schools that are much lower ranked.

Does this mean they're not trying to game their medians like Chicago? But even so, I assumed that given they quality of their applicant pool, they would naturally just have a higher GPA median.

I'm not complaining but i've always been curious as to why this is the case.


1. They're not gaming their GPA medians, whereas most of the schools below them are (UChi is too).
2. They're relatively splitter-friendly in the first place.
3. They're a good deal bigger than most schools below them.

CLS has historically been very strict about essentially requiring non-URMs to have a 170. They ding all sorts of those 3.95/168 types that UChi and MVP have been glad to gobble up.


This is all true, although Im sure some degree of median gaming exists nonetheless. Also, seems like CLS at least is more forgiving of a 3.6 at a peer undergrad than a 3.75 at another less renowned school. Not sure why or how this is, but it shows in the class.

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby Moneytrees » Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:52 pm

This is a great thread. I followed the December LSAT thread and it was painful to read. There is some real insight on this one. Earlier in the thread, someone discussed the fact that HYS are the only schools that open certain doors to political careers. I was wondering what that user meant by that statement.
Obviously, going to one of those 3 schools will open doors. But is there any data that supports the statement that HYS offer opportunities that other T14 schools don't? When I first read that, I immediately thought of Joe Biden's dismal academic career (it's almost hilarious, if it wasn't quasi-shameful, that a moron like Biden is VP).

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby Kimikho » Thu Jan 23, 2014 3:36 am

why doesn't this ever get stickied :(

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby JustHawkin » Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:10 am

scoobers wrote:why doesn't this ever get stickied :(

I know! I refer to this thread just about every day. At least when I am bored at work.

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby ManoftheHour » Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:40 pm

JustHawkin wrote:
scoobers wrote:why doesn't this ever get stickied :(

I know! I refer to this thread just about every day. At least when I am bored at work.

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby nothingtosee » Sun Jan 26, 2014 1:45 pm

I wish this were stickied

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby phillywc » Sun Jan 26, 2014 1:58 pm

Sometimes it takes 2-3 requests in the mod thread to get stickied.

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby Nonconsecutive » Sun Jan 26, 2014 5:02 pm

JustHawkin wrote:
scoobers wrote:why doesn't this ever get stickied :(

I know! I refer to this thread just about every day. At least when I am bored at work.


Same

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby JWalker » Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:13 pm

Whoa! Hadn't checked #s since my cycle (11-12) and these numbers are shocking.

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby BLUERUFiO » Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:28 pm

JWalker wrote:Whoa! Hadn't checked #s since my cycle (11-12) and these numbers are shocking.

Care to elaborate?

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby ManoftheHour » Fri Feb 07, 2014 11:04 pm

nothingtosee wrote:I wish this were stickied


Seriously. In terms of usefulness and how often I visit, this is a top 3 thread.

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby Marshmallow » Fri Feb 21, 2014 10:04 am

bumpity bump just cause i'm in the area (/use this, like, every day!) :D

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby JWalker » Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:40 am

BLUERUFiO wrote:
JWalker wrote:Whoa! Hadn't checked #s since my cycle (11-12) and these numbers are shocking.

Care to elaborate?


The medians are a lot lower than my cycle. For example, the median LSAT at NYU when I was applying was 172.

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Postby BLUERUFiO » Mon Feb 24, 2014 3:22 pm

Man, this Doc is helpful. Thanks everyone. BUMP.

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby TheSenator » Tue Feb 25, 2014 1:55 am

BLUERUFiO wrote:Man, this Doc is helpful. Thanks everyone. BUMP.

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby star fox » Tue Feb 25, 2014 2:22 am

Come on Chicago… drop that GPA Median just .02 will ya?

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby stayquiet » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:27 pm

Tag.

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby Penguin515 » Sat Jul 19, 2014 11:24 pm

lsat/gpa median Predictions for CLS, NYU, Penn, Duke, and Cornell?

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby isuperserial » Sun Jul 20, 2014 12:28 am

Penguin515 wrote:lsat/gpa median Predictions for CLS, NYU, Penn, Duke, and Cornell?


This is new thread material, bud. Don't res an old thread when it's a new topic, make a new one!

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby rayiner » Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:53 am

BLUERUFiO wrote:
JWalker wrote:Whoa! Hadn't checked #s since my cycle (11-12) and these numbers are shocking.

Care to elaborate?


Everyone is apparently dumber at the T14 than a few years ago.

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby Power_of_Facing » Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:28 pm

rayiner wrote:
BLUERUFiO wrote:
JWalker wrote:Whoa! Hadn't checked #s since my cycle (11-12) and these numbers are shocking.

Care to elaborate?


Everyone is apparently dumber at the T14 than a few years ago.


Perhaps everyone is tacitly smarter at the T14 than a few years ago.

Indeed, haven't current students opted for the law school path at a time when scholarship money is more easily obtainable (both in terms of academic performance requirements and breadth of competition) and when the profession is ever-so-slightly rebounding?

In whichever case, T14 students remain generally the same as they ever were -- objectively dumb and willfully ignorant. :D




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