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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby jingosaur » Mon Oct 21, 2013 11:39 am

MarkinKansasCity wrote:
jingosaur wrote:
ScottRiqui wrote:Feels like some of these schools are thinking "If we just don't announce medians this year, maybe no one will notice?"


Yeah, nothing is coming from the TTTTs. I'm not sure if it's like this every year. I wonder how much longer until a school goes below a 140 median.


http://www.lstscorereports.com/?school=interamerican

Welcome to Puerto Rico! Where our median LSAT is a jaw-dropping 138!


The average LSAC score for Puerto Rican test takers is around a 136 (not a joke), but I'm pretty sure that the PR law schools are used similarly to how people use Caribbean medical schools, which is so much more sad than the medical school people's decision since getting into a low-end US law school is really easy.

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby MarkinKansasCity » Mon Oct 21, 2013 11:43 am

The-Specs wrote:
MarkinKansasCity wrote:
jingosaur wrote:
ScottRiqui wrote:Feels like some of these schools are thinking "If we just don't announce medians this year, maybe no one will notice?"


Yeah, nothing is coming from the TTTTs. I'm not sure if it's like this every year. I wonder how much longer until a school goes below a 140 median.


http://www.lstscorereports.com/?school=interamerican

Welcome to Puerto Rico! Where our median LSAT is a jaw-dropping 138!


Would you look at the drop in the size of that 1L class! Really tightening the belt there (though why they ever had a class of 800 anyway is beyond me).


InterAmerican wrote:Juris Doctor is a program for high school students who graduate looking for a graduate school option that allows them to acquire the knowledge and develop in the field of law.


InterAmerican wrote:Juris Doctor is a program for high school students who graduate looking for a graduate school option that allows them to acquire the knowledge and develop in the field of law.


InterAmerican wrote:Juris Doctor is a program for high school students

http://www.derecho.inter.edu/inter/futu ... admisiones

Well holy shit. Dropping from 869 to 246 was trying to hold that 139 median. (They didn't) At least the COA is only $33,150 annually.

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby hephaestus » Mon Oct 21, 2013 11:44 am

JCougar wrote:
Monochromatic Oeuvre wrote:School A: 3.57/3.75/3.88, 164/168/169, 34.2% Biglaw+FedClerk
School B: 3.48/3.63/3.80, 165/167/168, 61.6% Biglaw+FedClerk

Just in case you get the idea that medians have anything more than a spurious correlation with whether or not you will get a jerb.


Georgetown is becoming has long been a trap school.

FTFY

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby jingosaur » Mon Oct 21, 2013 11:48 am

ImNoScar wrote:
JCougar wrote:
Monochromatic Oeuvre wrote:School A: 3.57/3.75/3.88, 164/168/169, 34.2% Biglaw+FedClerk
School B: 3.48/3.63/3.80, 165/167/168, 61.6% Biglaw+FedClerk

Just in case you get the idea that medians have anything more than a spurious correlation with whether or not you will get a jerb.


Georgetown is becoming has long been a trap school.

FTFY


The notion of becomming a lawyer in Washington DC has long been a trap. Something like 1 in 12 DC residents is a lawyer.

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby hephaestus » Mon Oct 21, 2013 11:56 am

jingosaur wrote:
MarkinKansasCity wrote:
jingosaur wrote:
ScottRiqui wrote:Feels like some of these schools are thinking "If we just don't announce medians this year, maybe no one will notice?"


Yeah, nothing is coming from the TTTTs. I'm not sure if it's like this every year. I wonder how much longer until a school goes below a 140 median.


http://www.lstscorereports.com/?school=interamerican

Welcome to Puerto Rico! Where our median LSAT is a jaw-dropping 138!


The average LSAC score for Puerto Rican test takers is around a 136 (not a joke), but I'm pretty sure that the PR law schools are used similarly to how people use Caribbean medical schools, which is so much more sad than the medical school people's decision since getting into a low-end US law school is really easy.

Exactly. Its not like getting to TJSL or Cooley is a grand achievement.

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby haus » Mon Oct 21, 2013 12:06 pm

At least the weather is likely better in PR than MI.

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Postby jingosaur » Mon Oct 21, 2013 12:38 pm

haus wrote:At least the weather is likely better in PR than MI.


There is more than one "I go to Cooley" video on Youtube where the Cooley student spends at least half of the video talking about how the weather isn't that bad.

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby ManoftheHour » Mon Oct 21, 2013 12:46 pm

MarkinKansasCity wrote:
jingosaur wrote:
ScottRiqui wrote:Feels like some of these schools are thinking "If we just don't announce medians this year, maybe no one will notice?"


Yeah, nothing is coming from the TTTTs. I'm not sure if it's like this every year. I wonder how much longer until a school goes below a 140 median.


http://www.lstscorereports.com/?school=interamerican

Welcome to Puerto Rico! Where our median LSAT is a jaw-dropping 138!


That is the true definition of a TTTTT.

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Postby Dolphine » Mon Oct 21, 2013 12:48 pm

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby jingosaur » Mon Oct 21, 2013 12:52 pm

Dolphine wrote:WashU's class profile from a Law fair (i think)

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It's official. UMinn wins the Median Gamer of the Year award, but WashU gets an Honorable Mention with those numbers.

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby jbagelboy » Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:21 pm

jingosaur wrote:
Dolphine wrote:WashU's class profile from a Law fair (i think)

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It's official. UMinn wins the Median Gamer of the Year award, but WashU gets an Honorable Mention with those numbers.


It's actually the same spread for gpa and lsat as UPenn, which should really be #1 in median gaming. And UMN should be receiving the qualified Median Gamer Fail award... same 75th as WUSTL, but 2 pt lower median.

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby longlivetheking » Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:23 pm

is a 23% urm pop. high?

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Postby Winston1984 » Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:29 pm

longlivetheking wrote:is a 23% urm pop. high?


If I understand it correctly, minority isn't the same as URM. I think they get that percentage based on students self-identifying themselves as a minority. So, a Jewish student could identify themselves as a minority, but they aren't a URM.

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby jbagelboy » Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:29 pm

longlivetheking wrote:is a 23% urm pop. high?


nope

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby DoveBodyWash » Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:38 pm

Winston1984 wrote:
longlivetheking wrote:is a 23% urm pop. high?


If I understand it correctly, minority isn't the same as URM. I think they get that percentage based on students self-identifying themselves as a minority. So, a Jewish student could identify themselves as a minority, but they aren't a URM.

Yeah there really aren't many URMs in our class...there's a fair amount of non-URM minorities (e.g. Asians)

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Postby 04102014 » Mon Oct 21, 2013 3:27 pm

Is GULC's 25th really 163 now :shock: :shock: :shock:

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby BruinRegents » Mon Oct 21, 2013 3:30 pm

MarkinKansasCity wrote:
jingosaur wrote:
ScottRiqui wrote:Feels like some of these schools are thinking "If we just don't announce medians this year, maybe no one will notice?"


Yeah, nothing is coming from the TTTTs. I'm not sure if it's like this every year. I wonder how much longer until a school goes below a 140 median.


http://www.lstscorereports.com/?school=interamerican

Welcome to Puerto Rico! Where our median LSAT is a jaw-dropping 138!

At least it's cheap. :D

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby Dr.Zer0 » Mon Oct 21, 2013 3:49 pm

What does it mean to be median gaming?

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Postby Toby Ziegler » Mon Oct 21, 2013 3:55 pm

Dr.Zer0 wrote:What does it mean to be median gaming?

More or less it's when you build your class around medians, rather than individuals.

Edit: And go out of your way to save your medians. Like offering large scholarships to everyone over your median GPA/LSAT

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby twenty » Mon Oct 21, 2013 4:02 pm

Basically, it's whatever UVA does.

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Postby sublime » Mon Oct 21, 2013 4:04 pm

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby jbagelboy » Mon Oct 21, 2013 4:09 pm

Travis12 wrote:
Dr.Zer0 wrote:What does it mean to be median gaming?

More or less it's when you build your class around medians, rather than individuals.

Edit: And go out of your way to save your medians. Like offering large scholarships to everyone over your median GPA/LSAT


Just to add to this, all top schools inevitably focus on their medians, but some do so by only admitting students of a certain total caliber - this is evidenced by schools with narrow 25-75 distributions, like a 3 or 4 pt and .2-.3 gpa spread;

others "game the median" and admit students with a very wide range of academic caliber but who satisfy only one of the two medians: here you will see extremely wide ranges of 6 to 8 LSAT pts (think Penn, 164-171, or WUStL 160-167), and .5 - .7 gpa. These schools are not admitting quite as "wholesome" candidates, but rather they are targeting half the class to be in one position and half in another.

These distinctions are not significant and all telling, and for almost any school the "at or above one median" is common sense. Still, a 164/3.9 stands a stronger chance at Penn than NYU, where as a 169/3.65 is more likely in at NYU than Penn.

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby Dr.Zer0 » Mon Oct 21, 2013 4:38 pm

jbagelboy wrote:
Travis12 wrote:
Dr.Zer0 wrote:What does it mean to be median gaming?

More or less it's when you build your class around medians, rather than individuals.

Edit: And go out of your way to save your medians. Like offering large scholarships to everyone over your median GPA/LSAT


Just to add to this, all top schools inevitably focus on their medians, but some do so by only admitting students of a certain total caliber - this is evidenced by schools with narrow 25-75 distributions, like a 3 or 4 pt and .2-.3 gpa spread;

others "game the median" and admit students with a very wide range of academic caliber but who satisfy only one of the two medians: here you will see extremely wide ranges of 6 to 8 LSAT pts (think Penn, 164-171, or WUStL 160-167), and .5 - .7 gpa. These schools are not admitting quite as "wholesome" candidates, but rather they are targeting half the class to be in one position and half in another.

These distinctions are not significant and all telling, and for almost any school the "at or above one median" is common sense. Still, a 164/3.9 stands a stronger chance at Penn than NYU, where as a 169/3.65 is more likely in at NYU than Penn.


Thank you both for your replies.

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby jselson » Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:20 pm

Dolphine wrote:WashU's class profile from a Law fair (i think)

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As a former English major, I'm deeply offended that they included us with Communications.

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Re: C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size

Postby ScottRiqui » Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:24 pm

jselson wrote:
Dolphine wrote:WashU's class profile from a Law fair (i think)

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As a former English major, I'm deeply offended that they included us with Communications.


I guess one of the two pie wedges we can't see the label for is engineering? Seems like a lot of them for a law school (either ~10% or ~20%, depending on which wedge).




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