C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size Forum

[jbagelboy]

a somewhat random question here, but does anyone know why Columbia and NYU have relatively low GPA medians (especially CLS) compared to their peer schools? And not only peer schools, but also with many schools that are much lower ranked.

Does this mean they're not trying to game their medians like Chicago? But even so, I assumed that given they quality of their applicant pool, they would naturally just have a higher GPA median.

I'm not complaining but i've always been curious as to why this is the case.

1. They're not gaming their GPA medians, whereas most of the schools below them are (UChi is too).
2. They're relatively splitter-friendly in the first place.
3. They're a good deal bigger than most schools below them.

CLS has historically been very strict about essentially requiring non-URMs to have a 170. They ding all sorts of those 3.95/168 types that UChi and MVP have been glad to gobble up.

This is all true, although Im sure some degree of median gaming exists nonetheless. Also, seems like CLS at least is more forgiving of a 3.6 at a peer undergrad than a 3.75 at another less renowned school. Not sure why or how this is, but it shows in the class.

[Moneytrees]

This is a great thread. I followed the December LSAT thread and it was painful to read. There is some real insight on this one. Earlier in the thread, someone discussed the fact that HYS are the only schools that open certain doors to political careers. I was wondering what that user meant by that statement.
Obviously, going to one of those 3 schools will open doors. But is there any data that supports the statement that HYS offer opportunities that other T14 schools don't? When I first read that, I immediately thought of Joe Biden's dismal academic career (it's almost hilarious, if it wasn't quasi-shameful, that a moron like Biden is VP).

[Kimikho]

why doesn't this ever get stickied

[JustHawkin]

why doesn't this ever get stickied

I know! I refer to this thread just about every day. At least when I am bored at work.

[ManoftheHour]

why doesn't this ever get stickied

I know! I refer to this thread just about every day. At least when I am bored at work.

[nothingtosee]

I wish this were stickied

[phillywc]

Sometimes it takes 2-3 requests in the mod thread to get stickied.

[Nonconsecutive]

why doesn't this ever get stickied

I know! I refer to this thread just about every day. At least when I am bored at work.

Same

[JWalker]

Whoa! Hadn't checked #s since my cycle (11-12) and these numbers are shocking.

[BLUERUFiO]

Whoa! Hadn't checked #s since my cycle (11-12) and these numbers are shocking.

Care to elaborate?

[ManoftheHour]

I wish this were stickied

Seriously. In terms of usefulness and how often I visit, this is a top 3 thread.

[Marshmallow]

bumpity bump just cause i'm in the area (/use this, like, every day!)

[JWalker]

Whoa! Hadn't checked #s since my cycle (11-12) and these numbers are shocking.

Care to elaborate?

The medians are a lot lower than my cycle. For example, the median LSAT at NYU when I was applying was 172.

[BLUERUFiO]

Man, this Doc is helpful. Thanks everyone. BUMP.

[TheSenator]

Man, this Doc is helpful. Thanks everyone. BUMP.

[star fox]

Come on Chicago… drop that GPA Median just .02 will ya?

[stayquiet]

Tag.

[Penguin515]

lsat/gpa median Predictions for CLS, NYU, Penn, Duke, and Cornell?

[isuperserial]

lsat/gpa median Predictions for CLS, NYU, Penn, Duke, and Cornell?

This is new thread material, bud. Don't res an old thread when it's a new topic, make a new one!

[rayiner]

Whoa! Hadn't checked #s since my cycle (11-12) and these numbers are shocking.

Care to elaborate?

Everyone is apparently dumber at the T14 than a few years ago.

[Power_of_Facing]

Whoa! Hadn't checked #s since my cycle (11-12) and these numbers are shocking.

Care to elaborate?

Everyone is apparently dumber at the T14 than a few years ago.

Perhaps everyone is tacitly smarter at the T14 than a few years ago.

Indeed, haven't current students opted for the law school path at a time when scholarship money is more easily obtainable (both in terms of academic performance requirements and breadth of competition) and when the profession is ever-so-slightly rebounding?

In whichever case, T14 students remain generally the same as they ever were -- objectively dumb and willfully ignorant.