Pros/ Cons of a third retake 164,173,???

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Pros/ Cons of a third retake 164,173,???

Postby A Parliment of Owls » Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:34 pm

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Re: Pros/ Cons of a third retake 164,173,???

Postby Randomnumbers » Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:39 pm

If I was in your position, I'd retake in a heartbeat. You know you can score higher, you aren't likely to score lower, and a 3.9+/179 would have to be amazing for schollies.

To me the biggest question has to be this: What is the drawback to retaking? Will it actually hurt your application anywhere? I don't know anything about HYS admissions (I didn't have your GPA) but if, somehow, retaking would hurt those odds, it might be worth rethinking. I just can't imagine a scenario where it would.

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Re: Pros/ Cons of a third retake 164,173,???

Postby Typhoon24 » Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:41 pm

if you're sure you can do better than a 173, sure.

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Re: Pros/ Cons of a third retake 164,173,???

Postby PRgradBYU » Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:45 pm

Typhoon24 wrote:if you're sure you can do better than a 173, sure.


This. It sounds like you could have done a lot better on the LG, so if you feel you can duplicate your success on the other sections while not blanking out on LG again, retake for 177+.

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Re: Pros/ Cons of a third retake 164,173,???

Postby Reinhardt » Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:45 pm

If you got into MVP in 2010 with a 164, you must have a pretty stellar application. Applying this cycle while also working towards a retake probably makes the most sense. If you parents lost their jobs recently, you might looking at need aid from HYS.

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Re: Pros/ Cons of a third retake 164,173,???

Postby untar614 » Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:22 pm

Yeah, I you feel good about it, I'd say send in ur apps ahead of time and sign up for the October LSAT (assuming you plan on applying this upcoming cycle). While I'd take a Hamilton over HS, maybe Y (not sure though) at sticker, if your family's financial burden is bad and well-reflected in the financial aid documentation, you may get significant enough need-based aid from HYS to make it a small enough difference to be worth it even if you did get a Hamilton/Mordecai/Darrow/whatever

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Re: Pros/ Cons of a third retake 164,173,???

Postby sinfiery » Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:45 pm

Yep, retake if your goal is a CCN full ride or Yale.


For everything else, a 173 retake and 3.9+ is numerically perfect. Named scholarships will depend on your softs too.

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Re: Pros/ Cons of a third retake 164,173,???

Postby Cicero76 » Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:06 pm

I feel like a retake is obvious here. You clearly didn't max your potential, so if you keep up a study routine then October should be a breeze. October is also in PLENTY of time for getting your app in early, as long as you work on it before then. Retake and grab that 100% scholly or Yale with lots of financial aid (if your parents are both unemployed)

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Re: Pros/ Cons of a third retake 164,173,???

Postby untar614 » Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:19 pm

out of curiosity, was the LG set you blew the juice and snacks one?

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Re: Pros/ Cons of a third retake 164,173,???

Postby A Parliment of Owls » Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:48 pm

Thanks for all the feedback. I'm leaning strongly towards retaking. (isn't that the TLS motto after all) Does anyone know if HYS look down on three takes? I sort of get the impression from their websites that they do but haven't been able to find anything concrete one way or another.

RE my MVP admission, it was a deferred admission off the waitlist. Not 100% sure why tbh, my softs are decent but it's pretty typical middle-class white-guy stuff.

Also thinking about retaking in October vs. submitting apps and retaking in December. I'll know after the exam if I aced it or not so that would give me the option to notify schools to hold my application and/or cancel the score if I blow it again. Not sure if retaking later would affect scholly decisions or not/ if schools will re-evaluate if you post bigger numbers mid cycle (although it is my understanding they will)

untar614 wrote:out of curiosity, was the LG set you blew the juice and snacks one?


And yes, f-ing juices and snacks.

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Re: Pros/ Cons of a third retake 164,173,???

Postby ManOfTheMinute » Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:58 pm

I was in the same situation, and I was going to retake if I didn't get into HYS. Since I got in, I didn't have to retake, but retaking is honestly a no brainer in your situation since you can take in October and still apply in the middle of the cycle

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Re: Pros/ Cons of a third retake 164,173,???

Postby Darmody » Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:21 pm

What do you mean you dropped a game? You ran out of time and couldn't get to it or your diagram was off and got all the q's wrong?

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Re: Pros/ Cons of a third retake 164,173,???

Postby Ti Malice » Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:33 pm

A Parliment of Owls wrote:Thanks for all the feedback. I'm leaning strongly towards retaking. (isn't that the TLS motto after all) Does anyone know if HYS look down on three takes? I sort of get the impression from their websites that they do but haven't been able to find anything concrete one way or another.


You should retake. I can't see any reason why a retake would automatically hurt you with YHS. If your third score is 173 or better, it would certainly make the 164 look like an outlier.

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Re: Pros/ Cons of a third retake 164,173,???

Postby A Parliment of Owls » Fri Jul 12, 2013 2:18 pm

Darmody wrote:What do you mean you dropped a game? You ran out of time and couldn't get to it or your diagram was off and got all the q's wrong?


Had plenty of time and got the diagram right. I was just anxious and it was a challenging looking problem which made me more stressed and then I did the exact opposite of what I'd been practicing for months -- I over-thought the damn thing and panicked. 30 seconds after I walked out of the exam I solved it in my head. Ironically two scenario LGs were my favorite during prep. Go figure.

When I was younger this never happened to me on standardized tests but now I'll get really stressed and my mind will just go blank and my head will feel numb and cold. Anxiety's a bitch.




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