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Great Op-Ed Piece by TLS's Resident Admissions Expert

Postby romothesavior » Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:49 pm

http://spiveyconsulting.com/blog/this-time-around-the-revolution-will-not-be-televised/

Down with the academy.

probably not the point he was trying to make, but it's the one I'm gonna make

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Re: Great Op-Ed Piece by TLS's Resident Admissions Expert

Postby hephaestus » Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:55 pm

I agree. Framing the Seton Hall decision as a problem with academic freedom seems to completely miss the point.
If SH, which is far from the worst school in the country, is struggling so mightily, I wonder how the true bottom feeders are dealing with declining enrollment.

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Re: Great Op-Ed Piece by TLS's Resident Admissions Expert

Postby MikeSpivey » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:43 pm

Thanks, Romo!

Here are some comments from "the academy" including Vic (author of original article) if anyone is interested:

http://www.thefacultylounge.org/2013/07/vic-fleischer-on-the-unseen-costs-of-cutting-faculty.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

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Re: Great Op-Ed Piece by TLS's Resident Admissions Expert

Postby A. Nony Mouse » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:52 pm

I, too, agree that this is only about academic freedom if Seton Hall picks who to cut based on ideology rather than junior status.

Also, according to the NYT article, Seton Hall has an uncommon arrangement whereby junior (untenured) faculty don't fall under the normal faculty handbook, but sign different contracts. So presumably anyone going to work at Seton Hall is aware of this possibility coming in, and cutting those faculty isn't some kind of threat to academic freedom when they don't have the same employment status as profs at other universities.

That said, the biggest problem I have with cutting the junior faculty is that it ups the proportion of faculty consisting as boomers.

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Re: Great Op-Ed Piece by TLS's Resident Admissions Expert

Postby MikeSpivey » Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:04 pm

The point that so many faculty members seem to be missing (you should see my hate mail from the past few days) is YOU, the students. I chimed back in:

http://www.thefacultylounge.org/2013/07/vic-fleischer-on-the-unseen-costs-of-cutting-faculty.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

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Re: Great Op-Ed Piece by TLS's Resident Admissions Expert

Postby romothesavior » Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:34 pm

I doubt I could contribute to that thread without being uncivil.

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Re: Great Op-Ed Piece by TLS's Resident Admissions Expert

Postby MikeSpivey » Sat Jul 13, 2013 8:55 am

romothesavior wrote:I doubt I could contribute to that thread without being uncivil.


Romo I wish you would, civily or uncively. Some
of the entitlement in the comments is unbelievable.




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