So I talked to my pre-law advisor

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So I talked to my pre-law advisor

Postby CanIGetAnAmen » Thu Jun 20, 2013 4:05 pm

She says that I need to take higher lvl courses because course selection matters a little bit.


Also will it look bad if I haven't taken may science/math courses?

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Re: So I talked to my pre-law advisor

Postby NanaP » Thu Jun 20, 2013 4:06 pm

CanIGetAnAmen wrote:She says that I need to take higher lvl courses because course selection matters a little bit.


Also will it look bad if I haven't taken may science/math courses?



not true...take whatever course will get you the highest GPA.

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Re: So I talked to my pre-law advisor

Postby nickb285 » Thu Jun 20, 2013 4:08 pm

CanIGetAnAmen wrote:So I talked to my pre-law advisor


Well that's a terrible idea.

Outside of HYS (and really YS more than H), course selection means nothing unless you're 100% tied with someone else for like the last spot in the admitted class or something. Schools care about rankings; rankings factor in GPA but not course load; ergo a 3.8 in poli sci is significantly better than a 3.6 in electrical engineering.

If you're shooting for Yale or Stanford you may want to branch out a bit, but on the whole it really doesn't matter as long as you keep your grades up. Other than that, don't bother with the pre-law advisors, most are 100% clueless.

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Re: So I talked to my pre-law advisor

Postby PRgradBYU » Thu Jun 20, 2013 4:59 pm

nickb285 wrote:
CanIGetAnAmen wrote:So I talked to my pre-law advisor


Well that's a terrible idea.

Outside of HYS (and really YS more than H), course selection means nothing unless you're 100% tied with someone else for like the last spot in the admitted class or something. Schools care about rankings; rankings factor in GPA but not course load; ergo a 3.8 in poli sci is significantly better than a 3.6 in electrical engineering.

If you're shooting for Yale or Stanford you may want to branch out a bit, but on the whole it really doesn't matter as long as you keep your grades up. Other than that, don't bother with the pre-law advisors, most are 100% clueless.


This. Take whatever courses you can to raise your GPA, OP. And never listen to your pre-law advisor again.

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Re: So I talked to my pre-law advisor

Postby ManOfTheMinute » Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:06 pm

If only this HAD EVER been discussed before...

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Re: So I talked to my pre-law advisor

Postby CanIGetAnAmen » Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:05 pm

ManOfTheMinute wrote:If only this HAD EVER been discussed before...


Hey brah...I would leave and never return if I were you.

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Re: So I talked to my pre-law advisor

Postby nickb285 » Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:20 pm

CanIGetAnAmen wrote:Hey brah...I would leave and never return if I were you.


Hey brah...I would maybe try reading what people said in the last thread you made about this topic, ironically titled "I'm sorry if this topic has been beaten to death but" (viewtopic.php?f=2&t=200552) instead of starting a new one wherein you decide to be a prick to a guy pointing out that it's been beaten to death. You could also check one of the four other threads in the first three pages of this subforum that deal with this question.

Or you could keep being a tool.

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Re: So I talked to my pre-law advisor

Postby bombaysippin » Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:33 pm

Why does it seem like most, if not all pre law advisors are terribly wrong about almost everything?

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Re: So I talked to my pre-law advisor

Postby Daily_Double » Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:43 pm

God I hate advisors, they know just enough to get by, but not enough to improve anyone's chances. Just don't listen to anything they say. My advisor told me once that my plan to apply on 9/1 would be impossible, so I shouldn't do it, because no school will accept applications until mid-November.

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Re: So I talked to my pre-law advisor

Postby TheMostDangerousLG » Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:57 pm

Daily_Double wrote:God I hate advisors, they know just enough to get by, but not enough to improve anyone's chances. Just don't listen to anything they say. My advisor told me once that my plan to apply on 9/1 would be impossible, so I shouldn't do it, because no school will accept applications until mid-November.

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Re: So I talked to my pre-law advisor

Postby Br3v » Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:58 pm

NanaP wrote:
CanIGetAnAmen wrote:She says that I need to take higher lvl courses because course selection matters a little bit.


Also will it look bad if I haven't taken may science/math courses?



not true...take whatever course will get you the highest GPA.



And make it a useful major in the event law school doesn't work out.

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Re: So I talked to my pre-law advisor

Postby Presidentjlh » Fri Jun 21, 2013 5:01 pm

Bajam wrote:Why does it seem like most, if not all pre law advisors are terribly wrong about almost everything?

They have good intentions, and they have this mindset that the more kids they get sent to law school, the more kids that will be financially secure in the future. But they are terribly misinformed, and live under the delusion that any law school = job as an attorney.

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Re: So I talked to my pre-law advisor

Postby MarkinKansasCity » Fri Jun 21, 2013 5:21 pm

Presidentjlh wrote:
Bajam wrote:Why does it seem like most, if not all pre law advisors are terribly wrong about almost everything?

They have good intentions, and they have this mindset that the more kids they get sent to law school, the more kids that will be financially secure in the future. But they are terribly misinformed, and live under the delusion that any law school = job as an attorney.


So they know as much about law school as your average mom?

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Re: So I talked to my pre-law advisor

Postby Presidentjlh » Fri Jun 21, 2013 5:22 pm

MarkinKansasCity wrote:
Presidentjlh wrote:
Bajam wrote:Why does it seem like most, if not all pre law advisors are terribly wrong about almost everything?

They have good intentions, and they have this mindset that the more kids they get sent to law school, the more kids that will be financially secure in the future. But they are terribly misinformed, and live under the delusion that any law school = job as an attorney.


So they know as much about law school as your average mom?

Bingo

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Re: So I talked to my pre-law advisor

Postby PRgradBYU » Fri Jun 21, 2013 5:23 pm

Pre-law advisors should be required to be disturbingly familiar with LST, LSN, and TLS.

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Re: So I talked to my pre-law advisor

Postby scruffy556 » Fri Jun 21, 2013 5:26 pm

I wasn't even pre-law advisors were a thing at my UG. I guess I didn't miss out on much

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Re: So I talked to my pre-law advisor

Postby MarkinKansasCity » Fri Jun 21, 2013 5:27 pm

PRgradBYU wrote:Pre-law advisors should be required to be disturbingly familiar with LST, LSN, and TLS.


Maybe they could just wear t-shirts with the URLs, and hand out 8x11 flyers with the URLs. This seems like it would be more effective than the dumbass advice they seem to hand out.

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Re: So I talked to my pre-law advisor

Postby Gunnar Stahl » Fri Jun 21, 2013 5:59 pm

Br3v wrote:And make it a useful major in the event law school doesn't work out.

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Re: So I talked to my pre-law advisor

Postby CanIGetAnAmen » Fri Jun 21, 2013 9:19 pm

nickb285 wrote:
CanIGetAnAmen wrote:So I talked to my pre-law advisor


Well that's a terrible idea.

Outside of HYS (and really YS more than H), course selection means nothing unless you're 100% tied with someone else for like the last spot in the admitted class or something. Schools care about rankings; rankings factor in GPA but not course load; ergo a 3.8 in poli sci is significantly better than a 3.6 in electrical engineering.

If you're shooting for Yale or Stanford you may want to branch out a bit, but on the whole it really doesn't matter as long as you keep your grades up. Other than that, don't bother with the pre-law advisors, most are 100% clueless.


Thanks. Finally some actually good advice.
Can you elaborate on "branch out"?

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Re: So I talked to my pre-law advisor

Postby PRgradBYU » Fri Jun 21, 2013 10:39 pm

MarkinKansasCity wrote:
PRgradBYU wrote:Pre-law advisors should be required to be disturbingly familiar with LST, LSN, and TLS.


Maybe they could just wear t-shirts with the URLs, and hand out 8x11 flyers with the URLs. This seems like it would be more effective than the dumbass advice they seem to hand out.


If you're implying that that's all they would do, then your proposal is sound. As long as they keep their mouths shut.

CanIGetAnAmen wrote:
nickb285 wrote:
CanIGetAnAmen wrote:So I talked to my pre-law advisor


Well that's a terrible idea.

Outside of HYS (and really YS more than H), course selection means nothing unless you're 100% tied with someone else for like the last spot in the admitted class or something. Schools care about rankings; rankings factor in GPA but not course load; ergo a 3.8 in poli sci is significantly better than a 3.6 in electrical engineering.

If you're shooting for Yale or Stanford you may want to branch out a bit, but on the whole it really doesn't matter as long as you keep your grades up. Other than that, don't bother with the pre-law advisors, most are 100% clueless.


Thanks. Finally some actually good advice.
Can you elaborate on "branch out"?


I don't mean to speak for nickb285 but I assume by "branch out," he means to take some substantive classes (i.e., don't just take freshman cooking classes and Music 101). Y and S are arguably the only schools that seem to care about which classes you take; their philosophy is that you should be challenged in your UG, as opposed to other law schools only caring that your GPA is within their range.

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Re: So I talked to my pre-law advisor

Postby CanIGetAnAmen » Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:38 am

nickb285 wrote:
CanIGetAnAmen wrote:Hey brah...I would leave and never return if I were you.


Hey brah...I would maybe try reading what people said in the last thread you made about this topic, ironically titled "I'm sorry if this topic has been beaten to death but" (viewtopic.php?f=2&t=200552) instead of starting a new one wherein you decide to be a prick to a guy pointing out that it's been beaten to death. You could also check one of the four other threads in the first three pages of this subforum that deal with this question.

Or you could keep being a tool.


Didn't read LOL.
Stay mirin' son you will never be aesthetic or zyzz brah.

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Re: So I talked to my pre-law advisor

Postby CanIGetAnAmen » Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:40 am

[/quote]

I don't mean to speak for nickb285 but I assume by "branch out," he means to take some substantive classes (i.e., don't just take freshman cooking classes and Music 101). Y and S are arguably the only schools that seem to care about which classes you take; their philosophy is that you should be challenged in your UG, as opposed to other law schools only caring that your GPA is within their range.[/quote]

Thanks for a good response. So do you think they want 300+ classes only their senior year? Or also junior year?

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Re: So I talked to my pre-law advisor

Postby keviiiiiiiiiiiin » Sat Jun 22, 2013 1:32 am

Can everybody post the worst advice they've gotten? Mine is:

"It's not worth it to retake the LSAT because most people only do a couple points better and it doesn't make that much of a difference."

I retook it anyway, got 2 points higher, and it literally saved me tens of thousands of dollars because I jumped over the LSAT median at the two schools I was considering.

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Re: So I talked to my pre-law advisor

Postby Cicero76 » Sat Jun 22, 2013 8:55 am

CanIGetAnAmen wrote:
PRgradBYU wrote:
I don't mean to speak for nickb285 but I assume by "branch out," he means to take some substantive classes (i.e., don't just take freshman cooking classes and Music 101). Y and S are arguably the only schools that seem to care about which classes you take; their philosophy is that you should be challenged in your UG, as opposed to other law schools only caring that your GPA is within their range.


Thanks for a good response. So do you think they want 300+ classes only their senior year? Or also junior year?


The level doesn't matter as much as what the class is. I took a 300 level gen Ed class called "Discovering the Universe." I guarantee that didn't help get me into Yale, but the many 3/400 level Latin translation and medieval literature classes I took may have, because they showed I was taking my education seriously within the subjects in which I was interested.

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Re: So I talked to my pre-law advisor

Postby CanIGetAnAmen » Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:56 pm

Cicero76 wrote:
CanIGetAnAmen wrote:
PRgradBYU wrote:
I don't mean to speak for nickb285 but I assume by "branch out," he means to take some substantive classes (i.e., don't just take freshman cooking classes and Music 101). Y and S are arguably the only schools that seem to care about which classes you take; their philosophy is that you should be challenged in your UG, as opposed to other law schools only caring that your GPA is within their range.


Thanks for a good response. So do you think they want 300+ classes only their senior year? Or also junior year?


The level doesn't matter as much as what the class is. I took a 300 level gen Ed class called "Discovering the Universe." I guarantee that didn't help get me into Yale, but the many 3/400 level Latin translation and medieval literature classes I took may have, because they showed I was taking my education seriously within the subjects in which I was interested.


You got into Yale Law? Can you post your stats/internships etc?

Also what are some classes Y and S like to see? Do they want a lot of math and sciences?




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