175 LSAT, 3.93, NO SOFTS WDID?

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175 LSAT, 3.93, NO SOFTS WDID?

Postby slaxie » Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:00 pm

As title states, I'm at a loss. I'm applying during the 13'-14' season and have the aforementioned numbers at a fairly good undergrad but I have NO softs. I pretty much slept and went to class in college. Is Harvard still possible/likely? What should I do to maximize my chances of getting in?

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Re: 175 LSAT, 3.93, NO SOFTS WDID?

Postby NDJ » Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:02 pm

if this isnt a joke.. you're good, relax. just go volunteer at a homeless shelter or join a school club or something.

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Re: 175 LSAT, 3.93, NO SOFTS WDID?

Postby slaxie » Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:07 pm

:oops:

Definitely not a joke. Long time lurker of TLS..

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Re: 175 LSAT, 3.93, NO SOFTS WDID?

Postby toothbrush » Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:12 pm

slaxie wrote:As title states, I'm at a loss. I'm applying during the 13'-14' season and have the aforementioned numbers at a fairly good undergrad but I have NO softs. I pretty much slept and went to class in college. Is Harvard still possible/likely? What should I do to maximize my chances of getting in?

Yes HLS is a possibility. A decent one prolly too.

Relax and keep your GPA up if you finish this may. Perhaps visit HLS if that's your dream and take a tour or something. Stay motivated.

The thing with softs for you is that 1) they don't matter that much unless they're great and 2) you don't have time to do anything great.

Relax. GL next cycle.

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Re: 175 LSAT, 3.93, NO SOFTS WDID?

Postby ManOfTheMinute » Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:16 pm

Dunno why you only want to get into HLS...

But, you're solid. You should almost definitely get an interview, but given your lack of softs the JS1 will be how they will get to know you. So just make sure your PS and resume can feed into whatever you are going to want to say about yourself during your interview. Look into the HLS applicants thread from this year (or anywhere else it might be) for the basic interview questions/topics so you can see what they're going to ask you about. A lot of JS' interview focuses around softs I think (I had KB, so I'm not sure), so it would be a slightly different field. Also, make sure to apply SUPER early in the cycle given your lack of softs.

TL;DR: (1) Prep for the interview (2) Apply on day 1

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Re: 175 LSAT, 3.93, NO SOFTS WDID?

Postby slaxie » Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:27 pm

I'd pay to take a look at their faces when they read my resume.. :roll:

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Re: 175 LSAT, 3.93, NO SOFTS WDID?

Postby toothbrush » Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:38 pm

slaxie wrote:I'd pay to take a look at their faces when they read my resume.. :roll:

throw an app at cls / uchi and wait for hammy / ruby. that's a good bet as well

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Re: 175 LSAT, 3.93, NO SOFTS WDID?

Postby dr123 » Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:40 pm

slaxie wrote:I'd pay to take a look at their faces when they read my resume.. :roll:


whats on your resume if you have no softs?

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Re: 175 LSAT, 3.93, NO SOFTS WDID?

Postby vzapana » Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:45 pm

apply early for a decent chance at hls, though they will grill you on softs during your js1.

you will get into nyu and columbia

you better work on some softs if you want to get into chicago/yls/sls.

i disagree with the above post - hammy/ruby require softs, but you may get a butler.
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Re: 175 LSAT, 3.93, NO SOFTS WDID?

Postby BerkeleyBear » Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:45 pm

toothbrush wrote:
slaxie wrote:As title states, I'm at a loss. I'm applying during the 13'-14' season and have the aforementioned numbers at a fairly good undergrad but I have NO softs. I pretty much slept and went to class in college. Is Harvard still possible/likely? What should I do to maximize my chances of getting in?

Yes HLS is a possibility. A decent one prolly too.

Relax and keep your GPA up if you finish this may. Perhaps visit HLS if that's your dream and take a tour or something. Stay motivated.

The thing with softs for you is that 1) they don't matter that much unless they're great and 2) you don't have time to do anything great.

Relax. GL next cycle.

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Re: 175 LSAT, 3.93, NO SOFTS WDID?

Postby TripTrip » Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:49 pm

Put together a compelling application that tells a unified story and does not highlight any negatives in your app.

Also, be prepared to defend your major and undergrad institution if they're "easy."

Source: 175/4.0/remarkable softs, held at Harvard.

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Re: 175 LSAT, 3.93, NO SOFTS WDID?

Postby Dr. Dre » Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:50 pm

NDJ wrote:if this isnt a joke.. you're good, relax. just go volunteer at a homeless shelter or join a school club or something.

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Re: 175 LSAT, 3.93, NO SOFTS WDID?

Postby Ave » Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:15 pm

Why don't you work a few years before applying?

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Re: 175 LSAT, 3.93, NO SOFTS WDID?

Postby Dr. Dre » Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:16 pm

softs don't matter

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Re: 175 LSAT, 3.93, NO SOFTS WDID?

Postby Ave » Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:22 pm

Dr. Dre wrote:softs don't matter

"softs don't matter" does not mean "WE before applying is useless"
ETA: just so we're clear - I've moved on from the admissions point since that's already been answered
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Re: 175 LSAT, 3.93, NO SOFTS WDID?

Postby Rahviveh » Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:22 pm

Dr. Dre wrote:softs don't matter


Softs probably do matter a lot more at HYS. But the kind of softs that matter aren't ones OP will be able to get easily.

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Re: 175 LSAT, 3.93, NO SOFTS WDID?

Postby sinfiery » Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:25 pm

Possible but not a given. Be ready to kill the interview. Apply widely and early.


dr123 wrote:whats on your resume if you have no softs?

Summer retail jobs, typing speed and interests 8)

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Re: 175 LSAT, 3.93, NO SOFTS WDID?

Postby Dr. Dre » Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:36 pm

HLS is all about em numbers


not so much for Y or S

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Re: 175 LSAT, 3.93, NO SOFTS WDID?

Postby Yukos » Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:06 pm

Dr. Dre wrote:HLS is all about em numbers


not so much for Y or S or UCI


FTFY

And HLS does worry about softs, just not as much as YS. See TripTrip and others with outstanding numbers who are held/WL/dinged for various reasons. Nothing's a sure thing when you get to HYS.

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Re: 175 LSAT, 3.93, NO SOFTS WDID?

Postby BerkeleyBear » Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:14 pm

Yukos wrote:
Dr. Dre wrote:HLS is all about em numbers


not so much for Y or S or UCI


FTFY

And HLS does worry about softs, just not as much as YS. See TripTrip and others with outstanding numbers who are held/WL/dinged for various reasons. Nothing's a sure thing when you get to HYS.

TripTrip has "remarkable" softs though.

This is his first post on this forum, "I also have a military soft and a few years full-time work experience (while going to school full-time). Parents didn't finish four year degrees (but two of my grandparents did). The only detriments are that my undergraduate is an unheard-of liberal arts public university and my major is Criminal Justice."

Maybe H enjoys trolling CJ majors. TripTrip still has a shot at H.

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Re: 175 LSAT, 3.93, NO SOFTS WDID?

Postby Dr. Dre » Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:24 pm

YEah HLS doesn't like CJ majors. But that's because CJ major is a joke, more-so than a humanities degree (and I'm in the humanities).

And UCI likes softs and high LSAT/GPA. Because, you know, it's a very rigorous program with excellent job prospects in a state with the best legal market. Watch out T14, UCI is coming!

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Re: 175 LSAT, 3.93, NO SOFTS WDID?

Postby TripTrip » Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:31 pm

Dr. Dre wrote:YEah HLS doesn't like CJ majors. But that's because CJ major is a joke, more-so than a humanities degree (and I'm in the humanities).

I wish I could disagree with this, but you're right. The reason I could work full time while going to school full time and still graduate at the top of my class is because my professors have to doll out the extra credit opportunities to make sure the class average is passing. It's kind of ridiculous.

I didn't really do my research for UG majors.

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Re: 175 LSAT, 3.93, NO SOFTS WDID?

Postby dr123 » Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:32 pm

BerkeleyBear wrote:
Yukos wrote:
Dr. Dre wrote:HLS is all about em numbers


not so much for Y or S or UCI


FTFY

And HLS does worry about softs, just not as much as YS. See TripTrip and others with outstanding numbers who are held/WL/dinged for various reasons. Nothing's a sure thing when you get to HYS.

TripTrip has "remarkable" softs though.

This is his first post on this forum, "I also have a military soft and a few years full-time work experience (while going to school full-time). Parents didn't finish four year degrees (but two of my grandparents did). The only detriments are that my undergraduate is an unheard-of liberal arts public university and my major is Criminal Justice."

Maybe H enjoys trolling CJ majors. TripTrip still has a shot at H.



Sounds strong, but def not "remarkable".

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Re: 175 LSAT, 3.93, NO SOFTS WDID?

Postby Dr. Dre » Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:34 pm

TripTrip wrote:
Dr. Dre wrote:YEah HLS doesn't like CJ majors. But that's because CJ major is a joke, more-so than a humanities degree (and I'm in the humanities).

I wish I could disagree with this, but you're right. The reason I could work full time while going to school full time and still graduate at the top of my class is because my professors have to doll out the extra credit opportunities to make sure the class average is passing. It's kind of ridiculous.

I didn't really do my research for UG majors.



It's all good. Your LSAT back you up. So people can't talk shit on you for majoring in CJ.

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Re: 175 LSAT, 3.93, NO SOFTS WDID?

Postby TripTrip » Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:37 pm

dr123 wrote:Sounds strong, but def not "remarkable".

That's because I haven't posted all my softs online. I'm not an Olympic athlete, but I've got a lot of unique experience.

PM if you're so inclined.




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