173 URM Waitlisted at Target Schools - Advice please!

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173 URM Waitlisted at Target Schools - Advice please!

Postby bananasplitz » Mon Mar 25, 2013 6:14 pm

Splitter URM
Business undergrad from a top school in Los Angeles
Late applicant (submitted in late January)


I was expecting to get in to Virginia, Michigan and Duke, but I've been waitlisted at all three.

On the other hand, USC and UCLA admitted me quickly with great scholarships. But I don't really want to stay in LA my entire life.

I'm worried that my personal statement might have limited me to Los Angeles because I mentioned my experience in the entertainment business. But there are plenty of other reasons top schools could waitlist me (low GPA, late applicant, weak diversity statement).

Any advice? Should I reapply next year, stick it out with waitlists, or what?
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Re: 173 URM Waitlisted at Target Schools - Advice please!

Postby Tiago Splitter » Mon Mar 25, 2013 6:19 pm

1. What type of URM?

2. What other decisions have you received?

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Re: 173 URM Waitlisted at Target Schools - Advice please!

Postby ManOfTheMinute » Mon Mar 25, 2013 6:23 pm

waitlists could be promising since you are URM... even with some $$ potentially

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Re: 173 URM Waitlisted at Target Schools - Advice please!

Postby bananasplitz » Mon Mar 25, 2013 6:27 pm

Tiago Splitter wrote:1. What type of URM?

2. What other decisions have you received?



1. Mexican (and white). No adversity to write about

2. Here's the predictor vs. admissions decisions so far-

CONSIDER
Stanford . . . . .
Columbia . . . . . (waitlisted)
NYU . . . . . .

STRONG CONSIDER
Penn . . . . .
Berkeley . . . . . . (denied)
Duke . . . . . . (waitlisted)

ADMIT
Virginia . . . . . (waitlisted)
Michigan . . . . . . (waitlisted)
Cornell . . . . . .
Georgetown . . . . . . (accepted)
Vanderbilt . . . . . . (accepted w/ $80k)
UCLA . . . . . (accepted w/ $90k)
USC . . . . . (accepted w/ $120k)

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Re: 173 URM Waitlisted at Target Schools - Advice please!

Postby Tiago Splitter » Mon Mar 25, 2013 6:37 pm

If you applied late you might be well served to improve your app and re-apply next year. But for now just hang in there. You'll probably have some better options two months from now.

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Re: 173 URM Waitlisted at Target Schools - Advice please!

Postby bchirco » Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:52 pm

Wow, i'd LOCI Columbia. TBH, I'm surprised that a 3.35 even got waitlisted there. Good luck man! :)

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Re: 173 URM Waitlisted at Target Schools - Advice please!

Postby Gatriel » Tue Mar 26, 2013 5:48 am

Is there 1 school your would really want to go to over the others. If so, it might be worth the money to fly out there and get some face to face time with the adcom. Set it up as a law school tour, and email someone from the adcom (usually can be found in faculty profiles) and says "Hey, I'm a prospective URM student and I saw your factuly profile and have a few questions about X, Y, and Z. Would you have 10 to 15 minutes for me on this date?" Ususally a dean or something works the best.

Go there, ask a couple easy questions for them to answer -- then say Yeah currently I'm waitlisted and would really love to come here and wanted to know because I am interested in (something that ties into the easy questions you asked them).

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Re: 173 URM Waitlisted at Target Schools - Advice please!

Postby manofjustice » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:12 pm

wait. you'll get in. YP.

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Re: 173 URM Waitlisted at Target Schools - Advice please!

Postby WhiskeynCoke » Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:51 pm

Wow, i'd LOCI Columbia. TBH, I'm surprised that a 3.35 even got waitlisted there. Good luck man!


He's above their LSAT median and is a URM. Seems quite unsurprising to me, especially with this cycle being what it is.

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Re: 173 URM Waitlisted at Target Schools - Advice please!

Postby PRgradBYU » Tue Mar 26, 2013 3:30 pm

Good things happen to URMS who wait.

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Re: 173 URM Waitlisted at Target Schools - Advice please!

Postby bananasplitz » Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:09 pm

Gatriel wrote:Is there 1 school your would really want to go to over the others. If so, it might be worth the money to fly out there and get some face to face time with the adcom. Set it up as a law school tour, and email someone from the adcom (usually can be found in faculty profiles) and says "Hey, I'm a prospective URM student and I saw your factuly profile and have a few questions about X, Y, and Z. Would you have 10 to 15 minutes for me on this date?" Ususally a dean or something works the best.

Go there, ask a couple easy questions for them to answer -- then say Yeah currently I'm waitlisted and would really love to come here and wanted to know because I am interested in (something that ties into the easy questions you asked them).



Good advice, thanks. This would work well if I got into Penn or NYU and had another reason to fly out. But if I get WL'd at those schools too, maybe I'll just fly out and visit my top choices.

I don't have a #1 choice because $$ will be a big factor in my decision. And that's another reason why these waitlists are a bummer for me... all the money could be given out and I'll miss all the admitted student days so it'll be expensive and difficult to choose the best fit

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Re: 173 URM Waitlisted at Target Schools - Advice please!

Postby daleearnhardt123 » Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:29 am

For whatever it's worth, my $.02 is that you are NOT being considered as a URM by these schools (no, I don't know WHY).

A 3.35/173 is good enough for a non-URM to get the results you're getting. Something is wrong. you should probably swing these places a quick diversity-style-LOCI or something

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Re: 173 URM Waitlisted at Target Schools - Advice please!

Postby TripTrip » Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:47 pm

Edit: I'm a moron.
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Re: 173 URM Waitlisted at Target Schools - Advice please!

Postby WaltWhite » Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:07 pm

TripTrip wrote:
daleearnhardt123 wrote:For whatever it's worth, my $.02 is that you are NOT being considered as a URM by these schools (no, I don't know WHY).

Well, not all Mexicans are considered URM. OP hasn't specified, so it's likely he is not actually URM and just thinks he is.



Agreed. From what I've read, Mexicans are not considered to be the type of URM that makes law schools bark like dogs and quack like ducks.

Just because you aren't 'white' (which, OP admitted he partially is), doesn't mean you are entitled to an URM-booster. Plus, there's a reason law schools, and others, are moving away from Hispanic/Latino towards Caucasian-Hispanic.

It seems that an URM-booster will only help if you're in a certain group (AA) and 2.0/142 applying to freaking Harvard.

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Re: 173 URM Waitlisted at Target Schools - Advice please!

Postby bananasplitz » Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:58 am

TripTrip wrote:
daleearnhardt123 wrote:For whatever it's worth, my $.02 is that you are NOT being considered as a URM by these schools (no, I don't know WHY).

Well, not all Mexicans are considered URM. OP hasn't specified, so it's likely he is not actually URM and just thinks he is.


Mexican is definitely URM. I think you mean not all types of hispanics are considered URM.

But anyways, I think daleearnhardt's suggestion could help. Although I'm not really sure what a diversity-style LOCI would sound like...

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Re: 173 URM Waitlisted at Target Schools - Advice please!

Postby Ben Franklin » Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:01 am

Definitely the timing of the app.

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Re: 173 URM Waitlisted at Target Schools - Advice please!

Postby Clearly » Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:08 am

You have to see if you're getting the URM boost. If you are, it's YP; if you're not, it's about what I'd expect (except UVA might have bit if you applied earlier).
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Re: 173 URM Waitlisted at Target Schools - Advice please!

Postby John_rizzy_rawls » Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:55 am

WaltWhite wrote:It seems that an URM-booster will only help if you're in a certain group (AA) and 2.0/142 applying to freaking Harvard.


Idiotic sentiment.

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Re: 173 URM Waitlisted at Target Schools - Advice please!

Postby PRgradBYU » Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:24 am

WaltWhite wrote:It seems that an URM-booster will only help if you're in a certain group (AA) and 2.0/142 applying to freaking Harvard.



How has this comment not been flagged? You're a moron.

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Re: 173 URM Waitlisted at Target Schools - Advice please!

Postby bananasplitz » Thu Apr 11, 2013 5:23 pm

bananasplitz wrote:Splitter URM (173, 3.35)
Business undergrad from a top school in Los Angeles
Late applicant (submitted in late January)


I was expecting to get in to Virginia, Michigan and Duke, but I've been waitlisted at all three.

On the other hand, USC and UCLA admitted me quickly with great scholarships. But I don't really want to stay in LA my entire life.

I'm worried that my personal statement might have limited me to Los Angeles because I mentioned my experience in the entertainment business. But there are plenty of other reasons top schools could waitlist me (low GPA, late applicant, weak diversity statement).

Any advice? Should I reapply next year, stick it out with waitlists, or what?



Just to add to the list.... now also waitlisted at Penn and NYU. Sucks.

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Re: 173 URM Waitlisted at Target Schools - Advice please!

Postby Nova » Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:29 am

PRgradBYU wrote:
WaltWhite wrote:It seems that an URM-booster will only help if you're in a certain group (AA) and 2.0/142 applying to freaking Harvard.



How has this comment not been flagged? You're a moron.


Yeah that's obviously not true.

Op if you don't like how your cycle turns out, reapply early. Next cycle will treat you much better.




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