2014 USNWR T25 Prediction Contest (Winners Announced)

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Re: 2014 USNWR T25 Prediction Contest

Postby holmesboy » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:27 pm

alwayssunnyinfl wrote:
holmesboy wrote:
Skye wrote:Since you are letting voters with tars but less than a jillion posts enter.. here it is. (question is, is this the leaked ranking, or am I just that good!?)



Hey now, I worked hard to get my post count up. What have you done with your life?

My guess is drink.

I hope she's actually as alchy as you say she is.

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Re: 2014 USNWR T25 Prediction Contest

Postby Real Madrid » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:30 pm

sinfiery wrote:If that's true for UVA and Penn, I see UVA overtaking Penn and holding 7 alone next year given the absurd money their handing out this year.


Possible, but if and when USNWR starts punishing schools for employment numbers based on school-funded jobs (didn't someone say this was happening?), UVa is gonna get shit on.

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Re: 2014 USNWR T25 Prediction Contest

Postby Crowing » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:32 pm

unc0mm0n1 wrote:I always thought it was TLS knowledge that the T14 was the T14 because they were the top 14 schools in the first USNWR rankings. I just looked up the historical rankings and that's not true. Anyway, as we are close to the release of another year of rankings I thought you guys would like to see how some schools have faired since the rankings were first released in 1987.

USNWR Ranking November 1987:
1.Yale
1.Harvard
3.U Michigan
4.Stanford U
5.Columbia U
6.U Chicago
7.UC Berkeley
8.U Virginia
9.New York U
10.U Pennsylvania
11.U Texas, Austin
12.Duke U
13.Georgetown U
14.UCLA
15.Cornell U
16.Northwestern
17.Illinois
17.USC


Nobody pays any attention to 1987 because that was the first year and USNWR drastically changed their methodology before releasing the next set in 1990. The T14 have been static since 1990.

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Re: 2014 USNWR T25 Prediction Contest

Postby wannabelawstudent » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:33 pm

Mike's posting some of the rankings on his twitter

https://twitter.com/SpiveyConsult

"USNWR tidbits: tie at #2. Chicago up 1 spot. Cornell up 1. Vanderbilt & UT up 1. UCLA drops. Wash U ties at 19. Alabama up to #21. UIUC #47!"

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Re: 2014 USNWR T25 Prediction Contest

Postby Real Madrid » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:35 pm

Alabama #21??? Oh for God's sake.

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Re: 2014 USNWR T25 Prediction Contest

Postby Crowing » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:37 pm

Who called Vandy 15 and Bama T25 weeks ago? THIS GUY.

My monkey darts are da best.

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Re: 2014 USNWR T25 Prediction Contest

Postby Itinerant » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:38 pm

Real Madrid wrote:Alabama #21??? Oh for God's sake.


worse than UW at #20

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Re: 2014 USNWR T25 Prediction Contest

Postby alwayssunnyinfl » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:38 pm

Crowing wrote:Who called Vandy 15

I don't think it's a coincidence that I was accepted and they received a nice rankings bump within hours.

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Re: 2014 USNWR T25 Prediction Contest

Postby Crowing » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:39 pm

Itinerant wrote:
Real Madrid wrote:Alabama #21??? Oh for God's sake.


worse than UW at #20


Bama is way more deserving of that ranking than UW based on outcomes.

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Re: 2014 USNWR T25 Prediction Contest

Postby 04102014 » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:40 pm

alwayssunnyinfl wrote:
Crowing wrote:Who called Vandy 15

I don't think it's a coincidence that I was accepted and they received a nice rankings bump within hours.


:lol:

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Re: 2014 USNWR T25 Prediction Contest

Postby DoveBodyWash » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:40 pm

Real Madrid wrote:Alabama #21??? Oh for God's sake.


Da fuq...

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Re: 2014 USNWR T25 Prediction Contest

Postby North » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:43 pm

alwayssunnyinfl wrote:
Crowing wrote:Who called Vandy 15

I don't think it's a coincidence that I was accepted and they received a nice rankings bump within hours.

YOU GOT IN

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Re: 2014 USNWR T25 Prediction Contest

Postby Real Madrid » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:44 pm

Crowing wrote:
Itinerant wrote:
Real Madrid wrote:Alabama #21??? Oh for God's sake.


worse than UW at #20


Bama is way more deserving of that ranking than UW based on outcomes.


Bama is a decent school with solid in-state placement, but they shamelessly recruit students from their honors program that haven't even taken the LSAT to artificially inflate their GPA medians. Everyone always bashes ASU for gaming the rankings, but other schools like Bama, UVA, etc. do it just as shamelessly and receive almost none of the flack.

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Re: 2014 USNWR T25 Prediction Contest

Postby andy261 » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:44 pm

North wrote:
alwayssunnyinfl wrote:
Crowing wrote:Who called Vandy 15

I don't think it's a coincidence that I was accepted and they received a nice rankings bump within hours.

YOU GOT IN

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Re: 2014 USNWR T25 Prediction Contest

Postby shntn » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:45 pm

Real Madrid wrote:
Crowing wrote:
Itinerant wrote:
Real Madrid wrote:Alabama #21??? Oh for God's sake.


worse than UW at #20


Bama is way more deserving of that ranking than UW based on outcomes.


Bama is a decent school with solid in-state placement, but they shamelessly recruit students from their honors program that haven't even taken the LSAT to artificially inflate their GPA medians. Everyone always bashes ASU for gaming the rankings, but other schools like Bama, UVA, etc. do it just as shamelessly and receive almost none of the flack.

How does UVA, aside from it's weird YPing and school-funded stuff?
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Re: 2014 USNWR T25 Prediction Contest

Postby Crowing » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:45 pm

cusenation wrote:
Real Madrid wrote:Alabama #21??? Oh for God's sake.


Da fuq...


It's really not that surprising. They were #29 last year and with more weight given to employment score they should've moved up. Their employment score is much better than most schools in that range and they do it without any school-funded positions too.

http://www.lstscorereports.com/?school=alabama

I think Bama is a great option for in-staters looking to stay in AL.

Also didn't congratulate you props in the other thread sunny - looking forward to Friday.

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Re: 2014 USNWR T25 Prediction Contest

Postby Real Madrid » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:48 pm

Mike Spivey's post jives with what Rurik posted on the last page.

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Re: 2014 USNWR T25 Prediction Contest

Postby Real Madrid » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:57 pm

shntn wrote:
How does UVA, aside from it's weird YPing and school-funded stuff?


-School-funded positions to improve its employment score.
-YPing to reduce acceptance rate.
-Having a 2-week ED decision window to lock in big splitters and big reverse splitters and maintain their medians (their 25th GPA and LSAT are both in the bottom two of the T14 and their ED class is huge)
-Apparently telling admits not to update their LSAC GPAs if they fell below their GPA target
-Also read by at least a couple posters that UVa was calling wait listers last year to judge their interest - not interviews (ostensibly to avoid offering a spot and then not being taken up on it - I.e. increasing yield)

Yeah, I know it sounds like sour grapes, and I was rejected by UVa, but I was rejected by a couple other schools too and don't resent them for at least TRYING to make it appear as though they're holistic and don't bend over for USNWR. :mrgreen:

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Re: 2014 USNWR T25 Prediction Contest

Postby Cobretti » Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:07 pm

sinfiery wrote:If that's true for UVA and Penn, I see UVA overtaking Penn and holding 7 alone next year given the absurd money their handing out this year.

seriously possible, they're making it rain

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Re: 2014 USNWR T25 Prediction Contest

Postby LRGhost » Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:24 pm

Do we have official medians?

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Re: 2014 USNWR T25 Prediction Contest

Postby zman » Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:35 pm

UCLA dropping has to do with the new formula(employment). there is no way they can move in ranking unless they considerably shrink their class sizes.

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Re: 2014 USNWR T25 Prediction Contest

Postby North » Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:41 pm

zman wrote:UCLA dropping has to do with the new formula(employment). there is no way they can move in ranking unless they considerably shrink their class sizes.

Which they should do anyway.

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Re: 2014 USNWR T25 Prediction Contest

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Re: 2014 USNWR T25 Prediction Contest

Postby sinfiery » Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:46 pm

You can hate on UVA all you want but keeping that ranking when you're obliged to have 40% of your student body come from the state of Virginia will never cease to amaze me.

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Re: 2014 USNWR T25 Prediction Contest

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