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License Lawyers Without JDs?

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:26 pm
by edadams
NYS is considering it. More from Bloomberg Law: http://youtu.be/IIeM1-yYVfs

Re: License Lawyers Without JDs?

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:29 pm
by thelawdoctor
CA does it, NY already allows it as long as you do a year at an ABA lawschool and then intern under a lawyer with court permission for a few more years after that.

I'd rather see them approve of a combination of online JD and interning if they go beyond requiring any ABA.

However letting them sit after two years at ABA only makes sense to me if they do it pre-emptive with out letting license until after third year completed. (I think AZ does that)
That would allow one to get C&F out of the way too so you could work day one after graduating. That would be a decent idea since 3L is just BS electives for most anyways. Might as well toss in for credit bar prep while your at it and then sit the thing if they let you.

Re: License Lawyers Without JDs?

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:30 pm
by stillwater
online schools are the backdoor to big law

Re: License Lawyers Without JDs?

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:32 pm
by thelawdoctor
stillwater wrote:online schools are the backdoor to big law


clearly NY believes that it does not have enough lawyers if they pass this....................

Re: License Lawyers Without JDs?

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:35 pm
by Drake014
thelawdoctor wrote:
stillwater wrote:online schools are the backdoor to big law


clearly NY believes that it does not have enough cheap lawyers if they pass this....................


FTFY

If it becomes pocket change to get a shitty lawyer credential, this would be a good mechanism to help lower the costs of crap lawyer work and JDs.

Re: License Lawyers Without JDs?

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:38 pm
by thelawdoctor
Drake014 wrote:
thelawdoctor wrote:
stillwater wrote:online schools are the backdoor to big law


clearly NY believes that it does not have enough cheap lawyers if they pass this....................


FTFY

If it becomes pocket change to get a shitty lawyer credential, this would be a good mechanism to help lower the costs of crap lawyer work and JDs.


expect it to make the bar get harder too. That was the excuse CA used.

Re: License Lawyers Without JDs?

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:41 pm
by Drake014
thelawdoctor wrote:
Drake014 wrote:
thelawdoctor wrote:
stillwater wrote:online schools are the backdoor to big law


clearly NY believes that it does not have enough cheap lawyers if they pass this....................


FTFY

If it becomes pocket change to get a shitty lawyer credential, this would be a good mechanism to help lower the costs of crap lawyer work and JDs.


expect it to make the bar get harder too. That was the excuse CA used.


As someone that's passed the bar in CA, I will confess that I don't think this should be the only way to be able to practice law. Personally, I think there should be at least an alternative method for those who do poorly under this specific type of testing condition.

Re: License Lawyers Without JDs?

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:50 pm
by thelawdoctor
I think the CA "minibar" is a good example of that.
If they do a 2 year option, that would not appear to be the same as that.
They already allow it after 1 year at ABA plus an internship.
I say, shaving a few hours off that internship might be ok, but still require it for the 2 year option if they pass it. Some real life experience under court supervision should be a requirment for ALL lawyers in my opinion, but for sure all those who didn't even finish their JD.

Re: License Lawyers Without JDs?

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 5:17 pm
by thelawdoctor
The day will come when the ABA allows online JD degrees to sit the bar too.
It will take awhile, but it will happen. You see the DE classes on campus as is (15 credit max right now) but it will expand as schools get lazy and want to pay one prof to teach 4 classes at once. After that people will figure out that skype is the same idea.