LSAC: Applicants: -15.9%

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Re: LSAC: Applicants: -17.9%; lowest # of LSAT takers since '01!

Postby MikeSpivey » Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:24 pm

Bookmarking and thanks for these updates!

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Re: LSAC: Applicants: -17.6%; lowest # of LSAT takers since '01!

Postby 99.9luft » Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:39 pm

updated.

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Re: LSAC: Applicants: -17.6%; lowest # of LSAT takers since '01!

Postby bcandybc » Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:24 pm

new weekly #s up. Trending to hit slightly more than 56k applicants.

http://www.lsac.org/lsacresources/data/ ... volume.asp

As of 03/22/13, there are 342,993 Fall 2013 applications submitted by 49,603 applicants. Applicants are down 17.0% and applications are down 20.9% from 2012.
Last year at this time, we had 88% of the preliminary final applicant count.

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Re: LSAC: Applicants: -17.6%; lowest # of LSAT takers since '01!

Postby 99.9luft » Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:48 pm

bcandybc wrote:new weekly #s up. Trending to hit slightly more than 56k applicants.

http://www.lsac.org/lsacresources/data/ ... volume.asp

As of 03/22/13, there are 342,993 Fall 2013 applications submitted by 49,603 applicants. Applicants are down 17.0% and applications are down 20.9% from 2012.
Last year at this time, we had 88% of the preliminary final applicant count.


thanks!

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Re: LSAC: Applicants: -17.0%; lowest # of LSAT takers since '01!

Postby Skump » Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:28 am

I'm not sure whether I should be more impressed by the magnitude of these year on year declines, or the fact that the number of applicants is still way, way too high.

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Re: LSAC: Applicants: -17.0%; lowest # of LSAT takers since '01!

Postby justonemoregame » Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:46 am

Should be fun waiting for 1L class sizes to roll out this fall.

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Re: LSAC: Applicants: -17.0%; lowest # of LSAT takers since '01!

Postby JXander » Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:56 am

Thanks for compiling this information!

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Re: LSAC: Applicants: -17.0%; lowest # of LSAT takers since '01!

Postby Ben Franklin » Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:46 am

There's hope yet

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Re: LSAC Data: Fall 2013 Applications

Postby PDaddy » Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:59 am

Robespierre wrote:^ There are several ways to deal with the decline in applicants.

1. Let the school's standards drop.

2. Decrease class size.

3. Poach qualified students from other schools by spreading around lots of scholarship money.

4. Admit fewer students who will hurt your medians: URMs with lower numbers, in-staters with lower numbers (state schools only, obviously) and people with low numbers but outstanding soft factors.

5. Accept people with low numbers who don't need to be reflected in reports to the ABA and USNews, such as transfers.

6. Sell yourself harder to accepted students with good numbers, in order to increase yield (another form of poaching from other schools).

This cycle, pretty much every school, except maybe HYS, will have to use at least one of these tactics.


Re: #4 ("URM's with lower numbers"):

Be careful! Declining admission to ANYONE with lower numbers - regardless of race - would assist the schools in dealing with the applicant decline, no? URM's aren't the only outliers who gain admission to law schools. The ultimate "URM's" are legacies and sons/daughters of the rich, many of whom tend to be lazy underachievers.

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Re: LSAC: Applicants: -17.9%; lowest # of LSAT takers since '01!

Postby PDaddy » Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:46 am

bcandybc wrote:
True....it just went from 54,000 to 55,500

shouldn't have used that term..

Anyways... maybe all those desperate school emails extending deadlines and offering fee waivers are working?


I think it was because of the LSAC website going down right before 3/1 and schools extended their deadlines a week. It should fall back to 54,000 - last week's "surge" was a fluke.

I would actually be surprised if it reaches 54k applicants by the end of the cycle however. 51-52k seems more likely.


...meaning more than four out of five applicants is admitted to at least one ABA approved law school. Freaking insane when you consider that potentially as few as one out of every four of those admits will fail to get into at least one school they would be at least content to attend.

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Re: LSAC: Applicants: -17.0%; lowest # of LSAT takers since '01!

Postby bcandybc » Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:28 pm

it appears that the law schools may have asked LSAC to stop reporting these #s each week - hasn't been updated in 2 weekly cycles. How many schools are still accepting applications anyways? Can't be many...

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Re: LSAC: Applicants: -17.0%; lowest # of LSAT takers since '01!

Postby 99.9luft » Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:01 am

As of 04/05/13, there are 359,070 Fall 2013 applications submitted by 52,066 applicants. Applicants are down 15.9% and applications are down 20.0% from 2012.

Last year at this time, we had 91% of the preliminary final applicant count.

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Re: LSAC: Applicants: -15.9%

Postby longlivetheking » Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:15 am

what's with the sudden rush in applicants/apps?

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Re: LSAC: Applicants: -15.9%

Postby NoodleyOne » Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:23 am

longlivetheking wrote:what's with the sudden rush in applicants/apps?

TTTs aggressively sending mass e-mails is my guess.

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Re: LSAC: Applicants: -15.9%

Postby longlivetheking » Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:32 am

noodley you retook a 179 and got a 122? greatest drop in lsat history?

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Re: LSAC: Applicants: -15.9%

Postby togepi » Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:34 am

NoodleyOne wrote:
longlivetheking wrote:what's with the sudden rush in applicants/apps?

TTTs aggressively sending mass e-mails is my guess.


That, and the people who thing now is the time to BUY BUY BUY.

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Re: LSAC: Applicants: -15.9%

Postby longlivetheking » Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:40 am

prospect of a resurgence in applications next cycle?

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Re: LSAC: Applicants: -15.9%

Postby loomstate » Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:40 am

number of applicants above 170 lsat would be a useful stat

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Re: LSAC: Applicants: -15.9%

Postby John_rizzy_rawls » Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:44 am

longlivetheking wrote:prospect of a resurgence in applications next cycle?


Very slim.

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Re: LSAC: Applicants: -15.9%

Postby justonemoregame » Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:45 am

Sudden rush in apps = people typically put shit off until the last minute / fee-waiver frenzy

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Re: LSAC: Applicants: -15.9%

Postby RetakeFrenzy » Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:48 am

how many schools are still accepting applications?

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Re: LSAC: Applicants: -15.9%

Postby justonemoregame » Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:59 am

RetakeFrenzy wrote:how many schools are still accepting applications?


I had a handful of e-mails in the past couple of weeks - Miami, NESL, PSU, Rutgers of course

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Re: LSAC: Applicants: -15.9%

Postby RetakeFrenzy » Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:08 am

justonemoregame wrote:
RetakeFrenzy wrote:how many schools are still accepting applications?


I had a handful of e-mails in the past couple of weeks - Miami, NESL, PSU, Rutgers of course


So some decent ones like Miami are still open.... hmm

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Re: LSAC: Applicants: -15.9%

Postby shntn » Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:46 am

RetakeFrenzy wrote:
justonemoregame wrote:
RetakeFrenzy wrote:how many schools are still accepting applications?


I had a handful of e-mails in the past couple of weeks - Miami, NESL, PSU, Rutgers of course


So some decent ones like Miami are still open.... hmm

Miami accepts apps until June or something, I think. It's a ridiculously late deadline.

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Re: LSAC: Applicants: -15.9%

Postby wannabelawstudent » Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:31 am

Some schools (like Emory) have their deadline pass. But are quietly still keeping the app open.




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