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Postby be(au)ar » Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:44 am

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Re: URM's....I'm a little jealous.

Postby ctmx » Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:44 am

it promotes diversity

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Re: URM's....I'm a little jealous.

Postby danitt » Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:45 am

IBTL.

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Re: URM's....I'm a little jealous.

Postby be(au)ar » Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:49 am

I don't think 'It promotes diversity' gets to the heart of what I'm asking but I'll take it

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Re: URM's....I'm a little jealous.

Postby kcam1991 » Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:49 am

Ibtl

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Postby be(au)ar » Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:50 am

I find it ironic that in a forum full of future lawyers, rational debate is pretty hard to come by

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Re: URM's....I'm a little jealous.

Postby slawww » Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:51 am

Well, you clearly are ignorant. Hmmm, only a few decades ago African Americans couldn't even use the same water fountains as whites. In the education race whites have a huge head start. It's pretty common sense, bud.

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Re: URM's....I'm a little jealous.

Postby be(au)ar » Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:59 am

slawww wrote:Well, you clearly are ignorant. Hmmm, only a few decades ago African Americans couldn't even use the same water fountains as whites. In the education race whites have a huge head start. It's pretty common sense, bud.



Right, and putting under-achieving URM's in a class full of Harvard or Yale law students is surely doing the system justice. I agree URM's need to be well represented in law school, but I don't think they should be given such a significant boost when it comes to the top law schools. And with your personal jab, I ask you to resort to my earlier comment, bud.

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Re: URM's....I'm a little jealous.

Postby 20130312 » Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:01 pm

Should have QFP'd.
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Re: URM's....I'm a little jealous.

Postby Swimp » Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:02 pm

The way our society is structured makes it difficult for members of some communities (including those in the "URM" category) to get into positions of power. We, as a society, have decided that this is not optimal, and giving priority to URM law school applicants is one way we try to change that dynamic. While you may feel that this solution disadvantages you unfairly, it is meant to combat a whole host of unfair (and much more insidious) disadvantages faced by minority communities in this country. I don't think anyone would say it's a perfect solution, but a perfect solution probably doesn't exist.

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Re: URM's....I'm a little jealous.

Postby kcam1991 » Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:05 pm

Swimp wrote:The way our society is structured makes it difficult for members of some communities (including those in the "URM" category) to get into positions of power. We, as a society, have decided that this is not optimal, and giving priority to URM law school applicants is one way we try to change that dynamic. While you may feel that this solution disadvantages you unfairly, it is meant to combat a whole host of unfair (and much more insidious) disadvantages faced by minority communities in this country. I don't think anyone would say it's a perfect solution, but a perfect solution probably doesn't exist.

+1

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Re: URM's....I'm a little jealous.

Postby JCFindley » Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:07 pm

kcam1991 wrote:
Swimp wrote:The way our society is structured makes it difficult for members of some communities (including those in the "URM" category) to get into positions of power. We, as a society, have decided that this is not optimal, and giving priority to URM law school applicants is one way we try to change that dynamic. While you may feel that this solution disadvantages you unfairly, it is meant to combat a whole host of unfair (and much more insidious) disadvantages faced by minority communities in this country. I don't think anyone would say it's a perfect solution, but a perfect solution probably doesn't exist.

+1


+2 and IBTL

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Re: URM's....I'm a little jealous.

Postby be(au)ar » Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:07 pm

kcam1991 wrote:
Swimp wrote:The way our society is structured makes it difficult for members of some communities (including those in the "URM" category) to get into positions of power. We, as a society, have decided that this is not optimal, and giving priority to URM law school applicants is one way we try to change that dynamic. While you may feel that this solution disadvantages you unfairly, it is meant to combat a whole host of unfair (and much more insidious) disadvantages faced by minority communities in this country. I don't think anyone would say it's a perfect solution, but a perfect solution probably doesn't exist.

+1



I agree

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Re: URM's....I'm a little jealous.

Postby Eberry » Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:08 pm

danitt wrote:IBTL.

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Re: URM's....I'm a little jealous.

Postby be(au)ar » Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:11 pm

kind of ridiculous how race/ethnicity is the third-rail of TLS forums

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Re: URM's....I'm a little jealous.

Postby Swimp » Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:14 pm

be(au)ar wrote:kind of ridiculous how race/ethnicity is the third-rail of TLS forums


This is not unique to TLS. It's a touchy subject for pretty obvious reasons.

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Re: .

Postby JCFindley » Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:27 pm

Let me rephrase this.

In Before The "."

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Re: URM's....I'm a little jealous.

Postby slawww » Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:30 pm

be(au)ar wrote:
slawww wrote:Well, you clearly are ignorant. Hmmm, only a few decades ago African Americans couldn't even use the same water fountains as whites. In the education race whites have a huge head start. It's pretty common sense, bud.



Right, and putting under-achieving URM's in a class full of Harvard or Yale law students is surely doing the system justice. I agree URM's need to be well represented in law school, but I don't think they should be given such a significant boost when it comes to the top law schools. And with your personal jab, I ask you to resort to my earlier comment, bud.


This argument is flawed because it assumes that URMs not allotted the same resources as the traditionally more priviledged white students do not have the same scores because they are underachievers, rather than because of a lack of resources and opportunities.

You're reasoning leads me to believe you would not get into a top school regardless of URM status.

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Postby Eberry » Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:35 pm

Now we'll never know if he's changed his views or simply pussed out.

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Postby nygrrrl » Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:53 pm

Yes. I think we're finished, here.
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