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Re: Arrested...again

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:20 pm
by longagofaraway30
I'm surprised at the people who think this would be enough to bar him forever from becoming a lawyer. He may have to sit out for several cycles to distance himself from it (if at all), but haven't we all heard of far worse scenarios?

There are so many practicing lawyers who had Dui's..and imo a DUI arrest is just as bad as one for a fight.

Re: Arrested...again

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 12:20 am
by uvabro
i seriously wouldn't lower the rankings list based off of this, because anecdotal evidence suggests that there's no correlation between accepting c+f students, and lower rankings. if anything a counterargument can be made as no one is more image conscious than a school hovering between 30 and 50 trying to avoid sliding from pretty good to an afterthought. it's not perfect, but think of it as a baseball team. you have a guy with character issues but all star #s - they always still sign with a big market team. some lower teams will reject you based off of your issues. some bigger ones will too. however, out of the top-14 one of them will probably either not think it's such a big deal or believe in you. you just have to give them enough other things to talk about. the selling point can't be good at bar fighting.

Re: Arrested...again

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:39 am
by Easy-E
I hate to revive this nightmare thread, but would anyone care to take a glance at my C&F statement? This one includes everything except the newest issue (waiting for the final charge/outcome), and would obviously be edited for schools that only ask for convictions and not just any arrest. Please let me know if you'd like to take a glance, I'll PM it to you. Don't feel too great about just posting it here as I'm obviously not proud of it.

Re: Arrested...again

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 4:25 pm
by Easy-E
Just an update, had my final court date yesterday and it got bumped down to a noise violation. This seems a lot better on paper than disorderly conduct, no? So when I include it my CF report, do I need to say what it was amended FROM, or just say "I was arrested on xxxx and charged with a noise violation"

Re: Arrested...again

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 4:56 pm
by 06102016
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Re: Arrested...again

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:02 pm
by JCFindley
slack_academic wrote:
emarxnj wrote:Just an update, had my final court date yesterday and it got bumped down to a noise violation. This seems a lot better on paper than disorderly conduct, no? So when I include it my CF report, do I need to say what it was amended FROM, or just say "I was arrested on xxxx and charged with a noise violation"
NOT LEGAL ADVICE OF COURSE
but maybe check whether the records reflect that it was a fight reduced to a noise violation or whether it's just filed as a noise violation without any additional information.
The bold holds true for me too, and I agree.....

Re: Arrested...again

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:11 pm
by mattviphky
Deleted my previous comment. Sorry OP, I just read your updates on the case.

Re: Arrested...again

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:48 pm
by Easy-E
Thanks for the replies. Its bit tough to discern the info from the court record, but it appears to say it was amended from something. I wasn't really giving much detail for my other incidents beyond the where, when, and what (the charge). Think elaborating on this most recent one might be useful to explain my actions? It's going to look bad either way, but I guess giving some context can't hurt.

Re: Arrested...again

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:51 pm
by Easy-E
Wormfather wrote:"There was an altercation with a gentleman on (date) After the police arrived we were both detained he was charged with assault, subsequentually I was allowed to pleade guilty to a noise violation

I regret my actions as the man was obviously intoxicated and in retrospect anything other than walking away would have inevitably escelated the situation. Although I cannot change what happened I will remember this event and the lessons learned if I ever should find myself in a challengingly volite situation again."

Let me know if you want to "excerpt any of this and I'll edit it out"
I might go along these lines, I will let you know.

Re: Arrested...again

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 2:36 pm
by hume85
The title of this thread made me LOL hard. I am glad to see it got reduced to a noise violation. Do you think you can retake and get a score in the low to mid 170's? I am guessing without a retake your options aren't going to be great regardless of C&F issues.

Re: Arrested...again

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 3:11 pm
by dingbat
emarxnj wrote:I live where the Jersey Shore is filmed as well, so imagine how difficult it is to walk away from one of those types.
Spin this into living in a shitty area where there's a lot of lawlessness disorder and chaos and how your goal is to make the area safe so that people shouldn't have to get into fights because of how bad the neighborhood is.
(if you can add in a troubled background/hardship addendum you're golden)

Re: Arrested...again

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 4:30 pm
by uvabro
dingbat wrote:
emarxnj wrote:I live where the Jersey Shore is filmed as well, so imagine how difficult it is to walk away from one of those types.
Spin this into living in a shitty area where there's a lot of lawlessness disorder and chaos and how your goal is to make the area safe so that people shouldn't have to get into fights because of how bad the neighborhood is.
(if you can add in a troubled background/hardship addendum you're golden)
lol

Re: Arrested...again

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 4:38 pm
by dingbat
emarxnj wrote:Think elaborating on this most recent one might be useful to explain my actions? It's going to look bad either way, but I guess giving some context can't hurt.
elaborating/explaining is going to look bad
not elaborating is going to look worse
not disclosing is worst

Choose the lesser evil

Re: Arrested...again

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:03 pm
by TrialLawyer16
dingbat wrote:
emarxnj wrote:I live where the Jersey Shore is filmed as well, so imagine how difficult it is to walk away from one of those types.
Spin this into living in a shitty area where there's a lot of lawlessness disorder and chaos and how your goal is to make the area safe so that people shouldn't have to get into fights because of how bad the neighborhood is.
(if you can add in a troubled background/hardship addendum you're golden)
Genius. That there is a lawyer ladies and gents

Re: Arrested...again

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:09 pm
by dingbat
TrialLawyer16 wrote:
dingbat wrote:
emarxnj wrote:I live where the Jersey Shore is filmed as well, so imagine how difficult it is to walk away from one of those types.
Spin this into living in a shitty area where there's a lot of lawlessness disorder and chaos and how your goal is to make the area safe so that people shouldn't have to get into fights because of how bad the neighborhood is.
(if you can add in a troubled background/hardship addendum you're golden)
Genius. That there is a future unemployed lawyer ladies and gents

Re: Arrested...again

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:39 pm
by TrialLawyer16
dingbat wrote:
TrialLawyer16 wrote:
dingbat wrote:
emarxnj wrote:I live where the Jersey Shore is filmed as well, so imagine how difficult it is to walk away from one of those types.
Spin this into living in a shitty area where there's a lot of lawlessness disorder and chaos and how your goal is to make the area safe so that people shouldn't have to get into fights because of how bad the neighborhood is.
(if you can add in a troubled background/hardship addendum you're golden)
Genius. That there is a future unemployed lawyer ladies and gents
I hear you brother. I've cut my 40 yd dash time down to about a 4.45, I figure if I get it down to a 4.3 I'll be all set for the ambulance chasing

Re: Arrested...again

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:00 pm
by dingbat
TrialLawyer16 wrote:
dingbat wrote:Genius. That there is a future unemployed lawyer ladies and gents
I hear you brother. I've cut my 40 yd dash time down to about a 4.45, I figure if I get it down to a 4.3 I'll be all set for the ambulance chasing[/quote]
If you have to chase, you're already too late. Next time pay the EMS to ride in the back on the way to the scene

Re: Arrested...again

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:18 pm
by TrialLawyer16
dingbat wrote:
TrialLawyer16 wrote:
dingbat wrote:
TrialLawyer16 wrote:Genius. That there is a future unemployed lawyer ladies and gents
I hear you brother. I've cut my 40 yd dash time down to about a 4.45, I figure if I get it down to a 4.3 I'll be all set for the ambulance chasing
If you have to chase, you're already too late. Next time pay the EMS to ride in the back on the way to the scene
Teach me the ways Obi-Wan

Re: Arrested...again

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:31 pm
by Stanford4Me
paulinaporizkova wrote:
NoodleyOne wrote:I would start by trying to stop being such a jackass.
came here to post this

Re: Arrested...again

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 10:25 pm
by Easy-E
dingbat wrote:
emarxnj wrote:I live where the Jersey Shore is filmed as well, so imagine how difficult it is to walk away from one of those types.
Spin this into living in a shitty area where there's a lot of lawlessness disorder and chaos and how your goal is to make the area safe so that people shouldn't have to get into fights because of how bad the neighborhood is.
(if you can add in a troubled background/hardship addendum you're golden)
Yeah I don't live IN Seaside. Not gonna work for my town (though I assume you're joking).

Re: Arrested...again

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 10:26 pm
by Easy-E
Stanford4Me wrote:
paulinaporizkova wrote:
NoodleyOne wrote:I would start by trying to stop being such a jackass.
came here to post this
Oh god that's funny.

Re: Arrested...again

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 11:24 pm
by vman21
d[-.-]b

Re: Arrested...again

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:27 am
by Stanford4Me
emarxnj wrote:
Stanford4Me wrote:
paulinaporizkova wrote:
NoodleyOne wrote:I would start by trying to stop being such a jackass.
came here to post this
Oh god that's funny.
Image

Have fun with the C&F portion of the bar.

Re: Arrested...again

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 1:43 pm
by TrialLawyer16
Stanford4Me wrote:
emarxnj wrote:
Stanford4Me wrote:
NoodleyOne wrote:I would start by trying to stop being such a jackass.
came here to post this
Oh god that's funny.
Image

Have fun with the C&F portion of the bar.
Fitting you had a picture of a pussy in your post

Re: Arrested...again

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 3:48 pm
by Easy-E
Stanford4Me wrote: Have fun with the C&F portion of the bar.
I don't doubt you might know what you're taking about. I just don't understand the need to be a condescending prick about it. If you really have something helpful (and that can be bad news too), you could just tell me. I know its the internet and it's easy to be a dick, but it's not like I'm the worst poster on TLS or something, I've tried to help people when I can on this forum. I'm not asking for someone to feel bad for me or to tell me everything is going to be perfectly fine. I made a stupid mistake, and I'm trying to figure out how to best deal with and understand how it's going to affect me attaining a career I'm genuinely interested in.




Anyways, thanks for the actual responses. I'm going to offer as much information as I can to give context, but I don't want to come across like I'm not trying to accept responsibility for what I did. I'm only paying for a handful of applications, but if I really under perform I'll have to see where I want to go from there. Now that the everything is wrapped up in court, I'm going to contact the bar association in the states I'd prefer to work in and see if anything disqualifies me outright from the bar.