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Another way to think about rankings

Postby PDaddy » Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:01 am

The Washington Monthly makes a compelling argument that we value the wrong qualities in schools and thus misapply ratings and rankings. I think the argument applies to graduate and professional schools by extension.

Check out this article:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/h ... brank.html

Here is the full ranking:

http://washingtonmonthly.com/college_gu ... y_rank.php

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Re: Another way to think about rankings

Postby 071816 » Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:30 am

According to these rankings, I went to the number one undergrad in the nation. I'll take it lol

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Re: Another way to think about rankings

Postby Yardbird » Tue Aug 28, 2012 6:21 am

PDaddy wrote:The Washington Monthly makes a compelling argument that we value the wrong qualities in schools and thus misapply ratings and rankings. I think the argument applies to graduate and professional schools by extension.

Check out this article:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/h ... brank.html

Here is the full ranking:

http://washingtonmonthly.com/college_gu ... y_rank.php
Their ranking is skewed...they rank for research based on the number of PhD's awarded in certain subject areas. Some schools just have more PhD slots than others, but that doesn't necessarily mean they are better for research. The quality of some of the PhD programs ranked high because of the raw number of PhD'ers is way less than some of the other PhD programs present on the list further down. Just food for thought.

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Re: Another way to think about rankings

Postby Tom Joad » Tue Aug 28, 2012 6:53 am

Well that is pretty stupid.

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Re: Another way to think about rankings

Postby Bildungsroman » Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:23 am

Tom Joad wrote:Well that is pretty stupid.

Agreed. I'd rather value schools by something like employment outcomes and cost, rather than these bullshit categories.

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Re: Another way to think about rankings

Postby Ixiion » Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:28 am

PDaddy wrote:The Washington Monthly makes a compelling argument that we value the wrong qualities in schools and thus misapply ratings and rankings. I think the argument applies to graduate and professional schools by extension.

Check out this article:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/h ... brank.html

Here is the full ranking:

http://washingtonmonthly.com/college_gu ... y_rank.php


Yeah, pretty much BS. But it is cool to finally see my UG on a top 100 list, lmao. It's normally in the top 150s. So, hey, awesome. And no, I clearly didn't choose my UG based on rankings. I chose it because its campus was beautiful..... don't ask. I ended up paying over 30k a year for a pretty campus, lmao.
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Re: Another way to think about rankings

Postby Yardbird » Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:52 am

Bildungsroman wrote:
Tom Joad wrote:Well that is pretty stupid.

Agreed. I'd rather value schools by something like employment outcomes and cost, rather than these bullshit categories.

My school got killed because of its cost of attendance...just because it's expensive doesn't mean it's a bad school. If anything, it's more of an investment because you have more opportunities coming out of my undergrad than almost 75% of the schools ranked ahead of it on this list.

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Re: Another way to think about rankings

Postby 2014 » Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:52 am

My UG is a solid 25 spots lower on that list, thus it is stupid.

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Re: Another way to think about rankings

Postby wolf » Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:19 am

I can't believe my UG is #2. This is such BS, but funny.

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Re: Another way to think about rankings

Postby shntn » Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:51 pm

Bildungsroman wrote:
Tom Joad wrote:Well that is pretty stupid.

Agreed. I'd rather value schools by something like employment outcomes and cost, rather than these bullshit categories.

+1

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Re: Another way to think about rankings

Postby heywatchitbuddy » Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:03 pm

Yeah I got into Princeton and MIT, but decided to go to UT El Paso because they were ranked higher. Thanks Washington Monthly.

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Re: Another way to think about rankings

Postby 20130312 » Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:05 pm

Another way to think about rankings: don't.

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Re: Another way to think about rankings

Postby mr.hands » Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:58 pm

ROTC rank? Are you fucking kidding me?

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Re: Another way to think about rankings

Postby T14hoping » Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:14 pm

mr.hands wrote:ROTC rank? Are you fucking kidding me?

You seem angry.



Very interesting. Obviously, more conventional rankings better correlate with actual employment outcomes and the like, which I think is a bit more pertinent.
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Re: Another way to think about rankings

Postby bjsesq » Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:16 pm

Right up there with Cooley as far as focusing on shit that actually matters to prospectives.

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Re: Another way to think about rankings

Postby laxbrah420 » Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:19 am

Schools should be ranked to answer, "where should I go" --not which is best for the public :lol:
This is dumb.

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Re: Another way to think about rankings

Postby Yardbird » Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:36 am

T14hoping wrote:
mr.hands wrote:ROTC rank? Are you fucking kidding me?

You seem angry.



Very interesting. Obviously, more conventional rankings better correlate with actual employment outcomes and the like, which I think is a bit more pertinent.
I think he's upset that someone would rank one ROTC program over another? Isn't the whole motto "An Army of One."

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Re: Another way to think about rankings

Postby CyanIdes Of March » Thu Aug 30, 2012 4:26 pm

Texas A&M better than Stanford and all Ivy... no.

Seems like an arbitrary/silly way to rank a university considering, by this system, Patriotism and being on the Class borders are valued most highly. But to be fair, they aren't trying to claim their ranking system should replace conventional ranking systems, rather this is just another way to rank colleges.
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Re: Another way to think about rankings

Postby IAFG » Thu Aug 30, 2012 4:29 pm

Ivory tower shitboomers will find any contorted way to avoid discussing placement power. Disgusting.

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Re: Another way to think about rankings

Postby 06102016 » Thu Aug 30, 2012 4:39 pm

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