Panic mode! From 3.2 to 2.2

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Panic mode! From 3.2 to 2.2

Postby Miracle » Sat Aug 25, 2012 12:18 pm

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Re: Panic mode! From 3.2 to 2.2

Postby bernaldiaz » Sat Aug 25, 2012 12:20 pm

Miracle wrote:I'm in a panic mode! My frind allowed me to use his account to post, and receive some advice afte i alerted him of my gpa status. I just received my lsac gpa and it is 2.2! My undergrad gpa is 3.2! Why did I drop so much? I'm thinking something was miscalculated!


Did you retake any classes after failing them at your university? A lot of universities don't count the original F in the GPA if it was successfully retaken but LSAC does. Either that or you have some credits from another school that were shitty? A community college or summer classes?

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Re: Panic mode! From 3.2 to 2.2

Postby Miracle » Sat Aug 25, 2012 12:31 pm

bernaldiaz wrote:
Miracle wrote:I'm in a panic mode! My frind allowed me to use his account to post, and receive some advice afte i alerted him of my gpa status. I just received my lsac gpa and it is 2.2! My undergrad gpa is 3.2! Why did I drop so much? I'm thinking something was miscalculated!


Did you retake any classes after failing them at your university? A lot of universities don't count the original F in the GPA if it was successfully retaken but LSAC does. Either that or you have some credits from another school that were shitty? A community college or summer classes?


I had some F's that were re-taken. Less than 12 credits, but should that bring me down that much? I was expecting 2.7-2.8 gpa, but was not exspecting 2.2.

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Re: Panic mode! From 3.2 to 2.2

Postby nebula666 » Sat Aug 25, 2012 12:44 pm

Miracle wrote:
bernaldiaz wrote:
Miracle wrote:I had some F's that were re-taken. Less than 12 credits, but should that bring me down that much? I was expecting 2.7-2.8 gpa, but was not exspecting 2.2.


Replacing three or four 0.0's with presumably 3.0's and 4.0's makes a big difference.

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Re: Panic mode! From 3.2 to 2.2

Postby Miracle » Sat Aug 25, 2012 1:14 pm

nebula666 wrote:
Miracle wrote:
bernaldiaz wrote:
Miracle wrote:I had some F's that were re-taken. Less than 12 credits, but should that bring me down that much? I was expecting 2.7-2.8 gpa, but was not exspecting 2.2.


Replacing three or four 0.0's with presumably 3.0's and 4.0's makes a big difference.


Enough to bring me to a 2.2

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Re: Panic mode! From 3.2 to 2.2

Postby manofjustice » Sat Aug 25, 2012 1:16 pm

study hard for the LSATs

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Re: Panic mode! From 3.2 to 2.2

Postby IAFG » Sat Aug 25, 2012 1:17 pm

Miracle wrote:Enough to bring me to a 2.2

I dunno, did you try doing the math?

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Re: Panic mode! From 3.2 to 2.2

Postby rayiner » Sat Aug 25, 2012 1:18 pm

You know you can calculate the GPA yourself from your own transcript. Just include every single grade.

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Re: Panic mode! From 3.2 to 2.2

Postby lawyerwannabe » Sat Aug 25, 2012 1:30 pm

1) Work for 2+ years
2) Study for the LSAT and get 170+
3) Apply to NU
4) ???
5) Profit

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Re: Panic mode! From 3.2 to 2.2

Postby Miracle » Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:13 pm

lawyerwannabe wrote:1) Work for 2+ years
2) Study for the LSAT and get 170+
3) Apply to NU
4) ???
5) Profit


I have 175 on LSAT!

3 years of working Exsperience!

Another year left of school

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Re: Panic mode! From 3.2 to 2.2

Postby NR3C1 » Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:16 pm

1) Work for 2+ years
2) Study for the LSAT and get 170+
3) Apply to NU
4) ???
5) Profit
5) Drown in debt

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Re: Panic mode! From 3.2 to 2.2

Postby bernaldiaz » Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:18 pm

NR3C1 wrote:1) Work for 2+ years
2) Study for the LSAT and get 170+
3) Apply to NU
4) ???
4) Get rejected at NU
5) Profit
5) Drown in debt


I don't think you're getting NU with a 2.2

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Re: Panic mode! From 3.2 to 2.2

Postby NR3C1 » Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:20 pm

Miracle wrote:I have 175 on LSAT!

3 years of working Exsperience!

Another year left of school

With a GPA less than 2.5, no worthwhile school is gonna offer you any money--even with a 180--and without scholarships, you are looking at COA + Interest of about 250K. The answer is simply: Don't Go, Do Something Else.

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Re: Panic mode! From 3.2 to 2.2

Postby NR3C1 » Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:21 pm

bernaldiaz wrote:
NR3C1 wrote:1) Work for 2+ years
2) Study for the LSAT and get 170+
3) Apply to NU
4) ???
4) Get rejected at NU
5) Profit
5) Drown in debt


I don't think you're getting NU with a 2.2

Ha, ha. I agree with you. I like this game. What about:

1) Work for 2+ years
2) Study for the LSAT and get 170+
3) Apply to NU
4) ???
4) Get rejected at NU
5) Attend a TTT at full price
5) Profit
6) Drown in debt

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Re: Panic mode! From 3.2 to 2.2

Postby IAFG » Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:23 pm

bernaldiaz wrote:
I don't think you're getting NU with a 2.2

It happened when apps were at their absolute peak. I seriously doubt NU is getting more selective as apps plummet.

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Re: Panic mode! From 3.2 to 2.2

Postby NR3C1 » Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:24 pm

IAFG wrote:
bernaldiaz wrote:
I don't think you're getting NU with a 2.2

It happened when apps were at their absolute peak. I seriously doubt NU is getting more selective as apps plummet.

But is NU worth it at sticker? 250-300K? Only way to pay that is Big Law? What are the odds of that? 30%?

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Re: Panic mode! From 3.2 to 2.2

Postby bernaldiaz » Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:26 pm

IAFG wrote:
bernaldiaz wrote:
I don't think you're getting NU with a 2.2

It happened when apps were at their absolute peak. I seriously doubt NU is getting more selective as apps plummet.


Huh, I guess I'm wrong. I did an LSN search for 2.0-2.5 and 174-180 for NU and didn't find anyone.

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Re: Panic mode! From 3.2 to 2.2

Postby IAFG » Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:28 pm

bernaldiaz wrote:
IAFG wrote:
bernaldiaz wrote:
I don't think you're getting NU with a 2.2

It happened when apps were at their absolute peak. I seriously doubt NU is getting more selective as apps plummet.


Huh, I guess I'm wrong. I did an LSN search for 2.0-2.5 and 174-180 for NU and didn't find anyone.

Probably has more to do with there just not being many people who fail at life that hard. NU releases their lowest admitted GPA at orientation every year, and it's consistently in the sub-2.5 range.

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Re: Panic mode! From 3.2 to 2.2

Postby IAFG » Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:29 pm

NR3C1 wrote:
IAFG wrote:
bernaldiaz wrote:
I don't think you're getting NU with a 2.2

It happened when apps were at their absolute peak. I seriously doubt NU is getting more selective as apps plummet.

But is NU worth it at sticker? 250-300K? Only way to pay that is Big Law? What are the odds of that? 30%?

1) yes NU is worth sticker
2) I don't have a link to the underemployment thread handy but we place very well into market-paying jobs + fed clerkships.

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Re: Panic mode! From 3.2 to 2.2

Postby rayiner » Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:40 pm

NR3C1 wrote:
IAFG wrote:
bernaldiaz wrote:
I don't think you're getting NU with a 2.2

It happened when apps were at their absolute peak. I seriously doubt NU is getting more selective as apps plummet.

But is NU worth it at sticker? 250-300K? Only way to pay that is Big Law? What are the odds of that? 30%?


NU publishes detailed salary data: http://www.law.northwestern.edu/career/statistics.

Out of 287 people in C/O 2011, 171 (60%) reported a salary of (> $100k) and another 23 (8%) went to a federal clerkship (harder to get than big law). Another 12 (4%) got long-term, full-time public interest or government employment (also often harder to get than big law, and eligible for 10 year loan forgiveness + NU's LRAP).

I'd say for C/O 2012 or C/O 2013, maybe 75-80% of people who wanted big law got it. The economy softened again this year, though, so I'd wait and see what happens with it.

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Re: Panic mode! From 3.2 to 2.2

Postby Bumi » Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:43 pm

IAFG wrote:NU releases their lowest admitted GPA at orientation every year, and it's consistently in the sub-2.5 range.


Wait, really? What was the minimum for 2014? I want to know how close I was.

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Re: Panic mode! From 3.2 to 2.2

Postby 1TLStudent » Sat Aug 25, 2012 4:16 pm

that doesnt even sound possible with solely 4 fs unless you have only like 65-70% of your credits done and you got As in all those classes

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Re: Panic mode! From 3.2 to 2.2

Postby alwayssunnyinfl » Sat Aug 25, 2012 4:29 pm

1TLStudent wrote:that doesnt even sound possible with solely 4 fs unless you have only like 65-70% of your credits done and you got As in all those classes

Yeah. I have 5 F's on my transcript, and mine dropped from a 3.5 to a 2.7. There must have been something OP isn't aware of.

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Re: Panic mode! From 3.2 to 2.2

Postby wtrc » Sat Aug 25, 2012 5:26 pm

1) You don't want to go to law school right away. You NEED work experience to help mitigate that absolutely terrible GPA. Start working, get a decent job, etc.
2) The 175 LSAT is great.
3) Start working on a killer addendum to explain the GPA. Family issues? Upward curve in grades? Etc. Get some good LoR's from Professors too

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Re: Panic mode! From 3.2 to 2.2

Postby Miracle » Sat Aug 25, 2012 5:33 pm

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