C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

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Re: C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

Postby inthebeginning » Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:10 pm

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Re: C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

Postby 2014 » Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:20 pm

VUSisterRayVU wrote:I feel like we're not gonna see a full story just based on medians. Rather, splitters are going to be admitted more readily at schools that were less splitter friendly. This was hinted at through some of the people on LSN but it's really hard to get a worthwhile sample since there's 1. Only so many splitters and 2. Only so many on LSN

25th and 75th %iles will be what you are interested in then. If the margin from 25th-->50th is large you will know schools took splitters and depending on the margin from 50th-->75th you will see perhaps whether schools favored deep splitters or if they didn't care as long as you were above median. Ex: WUSTLs 50th and 75th LSAT are probably going to be the same or 1 apart because for them as long as you are above median it doesn't matter how far above you are. On the other hand NU takes deep splits too but seems to prefer LSATs to be higher than median.

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Re: C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

Postby VUSisterRayVU » Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:47 pm

2014 wrote:
VUSisterRayVU wrote:I feel like we're not gonna see a full story just based on medians. Rather, splitters are going to be admitted more readily at schools that were less splitter friendly. This was hinted at through some of the people on LSN but it's really hard to get a worthwhile sample since there's 1. Only so many splitters and 2. Only so many on LSN

25th and 75th %iles will be what you are interested in then. If the margin from 25th-->50th is large you will know schools took splitters and depending on the margin from 50th-->75th you will see perhaps whether schools favored deep splitters or if they didn't care as long as you were above median. Ex: WUSTLs 50th and 75th LSAT are probably going to be the same or 1 apart because for them as long as you are above median it doesn't matter how far above you are. On the other hand NU takes deep splits too but seems to prefer LSATs to be higher than median.


tyft, appreciate the analysis

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Re: C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

Postby 99.9luft » Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:53 pm

Kev, good idea for a thread.

Also, enjoy your summer (or whatever is left of your freedom).

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Re: C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

Postby geary86 » Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:12 pm

no new median info yet?

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Re: C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

Postby KevinP » Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:20 pm

Added data for gm... on mobile phone since im in cls housing with no internet... huge decline in class size and still a median decline.. will add colors later

Format is: lsat (change from last year), GPA (change), Class size (change)
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Re: C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

Postby KevinP » Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:21 pm

99.9luft wrote:Kev, good idea for a thread.

Also, enjoy your summer (or whatever is left of your freedom).

Bro... im already jaded about my employment outcomes.. if feel if i absolutely dislike law... i may drop out

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Re: C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

Postby LSATSCORES2012 » Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:28 pm

Hmm, still nothing on Duke?

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Re: C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

Postby thelawyler » Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:15 pm

Considering George Mason had a class of 300 just two years ago, now a class of 160 just seems absurdly small. And they STILL dropped medians.

Law schools, the end is near.

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Re: C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

Postby 99.9luft » Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:28 pm

thelawyler wrote:Considering George Mason had a class of 300 just two years ago, now a class of 160 just seems absurdly small. And they STILL dropped medians.

Law schools, the end is near.


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Re: C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

Postby 99.9luft » Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:28 pm

KevinP wrote:
99.9luft wrote:Kev, good idea for a thread.

Also, enjoy your summer (or whatever is left of your freedom).

Bro... im already jaded about my employment outcomes.. if feel if i absolutely dislike law... i may drop out


gchat tomorrow, brosef.

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Re: C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

Postby top30man » Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:36 pm

thelawyler wrote:Considering George Mason had a class of 300 just two years ago, now a class of 160 just seems absurdly small. And they STILL dropped medians.

Law schools, the end is near.

Not surprising considering their shit employment prospects.

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Re: C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

Postby southwick » Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:43 pm

SLS's orientation technically starts the 29th but we likely won't hear anything about medians until the 30th, so you can probably dispense with the question marks :).

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Re: C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

Postby thelawyler » Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:51 pm

I guess we should hear from UCLA, Vandy, Columbia, and GW soon as their orientations were this week.

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Re: C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

Postby VUSisterRayVU » Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:48 am

top30man wrote:
thelawyler wrote:Considering George Mason had a class of 300 just two years ago, now a class of 160 just seems absurdly small. And they STILL dropped medians.

Law schools, the end is near.

Not surprising considering their shit employment prospects.


This. It may be wishful thinking on my part, but I doubt we're gonna see significant drops in class sizes across the T14. At most, it may be 10% at some place like GULC but even that would be huge and not likely imo.

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Re: C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

Postby thelawyler » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:39 am

VUSisterRayVU wrote:
top30man wrote:
thelawyler wrote:Considering George Mason had a class of 300 just two years ago, now a class of 160 just seems absurdly small. And they STILL dropped medians.

Law schools, the end is near.

Not surprising considering their shit employment prospects.


This. It may be wishful thinking on my part, but I doubt we're gonna see significant drops in class sizes across the T14. At most, it may be 10% at some place like GULC but even that would be huge and not likely imo.


I think we might see some drop. Even Duke dropped 10% last year.

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Re: C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

Postby VUSisterRayVU » Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:26 pm

thelawyler wrote:
VUSisterRayVU wrote:
top30man wrote:
thelawyler wrote:Considering George Mason had a class of 300 just two years ago, now a class of 160 just seems absurdly small. And they STILL dropped medians.

Law schools, the end is near.

Not surprising considering their shit employment prospects.


This. It may be wishful thinking on my part, but I doubt we're gonna see significant drops in class sizes across the T14. At most, it may be 10% at some place like GULC but even that would be huge and not likely imo.


I think we might see some drop. Even Duke dropped 10% last year.


Do you think they could sustain a drop of 20% over two years AND take the median hit?

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Re: C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

Postby KevinP » Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:54 pm

Davis added

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Re: C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

Postby thelawyler » Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:48 am

KevinP wrote:Davis added

That looks fairly okay for them.

But we do know that the biggest drop in applicants were those with LSAT in the elite level of scores, so we'll see what happens up there.

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Re: C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

Postby emkay625 » Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:00 am

No clue about medians, but Texas' class size is 300. (That's a drop of 75).

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Re: C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

Postby thelawyler » Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:14 am

emkay625 wrote:No clue about medians, but Texas' class size is 300. (That's a drop of 75).


Wow, 20% drop.

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Re: C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

Postby geary86 » Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:09 am

KevinP wrote:UC Davis: 163 (-1), 3.6 (-.03), 191 (-1)
University of Georgia: 164 (-1), 3.67 (+.08), 189 (-36, -16%)
George Mason (FT + PT): 163(-1), 3.7(-.02), 147(-39, -20.98%)


so far, -1 seems to be the new norm? (even with huge drops in class sizes)

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Re: C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

Postby justonemoregame » Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:10 am

For those of you interested in viewing complete profiles, LST has recently posted the GPA/LSAT and enrollment data for the previous two entering classes:

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Re: C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

Postby bigeast03 » Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:24 am

Vanderbilt- Class size of only 173 (down 20 from last year)

LSAT
25% - 164 (-1)
Median - 169 (+/- 0)
75% - 170 (+/- 0)

GPA

25%: 3.4 (-0.08)
Median: 3.7 (-0.03)
75%: 3.84 (+/- 0)




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