C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

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Re: C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

Postby Lord Randolph McDuff » Mon Sep 03, 2012 12:04 pm

Ruxin1 wrote:
AllDangle wrote:Would the drop in applicants from last year, and also this year, help someone who is above a schools 75th GPA percentile, but say 2 points below the 25th LSAT percentile?


It really depends on the school, what school do you want to know? Bear in mind that high gpa's are dime-a-dozen, below median lsat hurts, especially that low.


Below median lsat by 1 point hurts the same as a below median lsat by 43 points. Not sure if I understand what you mean.

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Re: C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

Postby Ruxin1 » Mon Sep 03, 2012 12:06 pm

Lord Randolph McDuff wrote:
Ruxin1 wrote:
AllDangle wrote:Would the drop in applicants from last year, and also this year, help someone who is above a schools 75th GPA percentile, but say 2 points below the 25th LSAT percentile?


It really depends on the school, what school do you want to know? Bear in mind that high gpa's are dime-a-dozen, below median lsat hurts, especially that low.


Below median lsat by 1 point hurts the same as a below median lsat by 43 points. Not sure if I understand what you mean.


Technically, but not in a practical sense. Look at LSN

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Re: C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

Postby nkp007 » Mon Sep 03, 2012 12:08 pm

Lord Randolph McDuff wrote:
Ruxin1 wrote:
AllDangle wrote:Would the drop in applicants from last year, and also this year, help someone who is above a schools 75th GPA percentile, but say 2 points below the 25th LSAT percentile?


It really depends on the school, what school do you want to know? Bear in mind that high gpa's are dime-a-dozen, below median lsat hurts, especially that low.


Below median lsat by 1 point hurts the same as a below median lsat by 43 points. Not sure if I understand what you mean.


No school wants anyone who is below their median by 43 points.

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Postby AllDangle » Mon Sep 03, 2012 12:09 pm

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Re: C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

Postby Ruxin1 » Mon Sep 03, 2012 12:11 pm

AllDangle wrote:
Ruxin1 wrote:
AllDangle wrote:Would the drop in applicants from last year, and also this year, help someone who is above a schools 75th GPA percentile, but say 2 points below the 25th LSAT percentile?


It really depends on the school, what school do you want to know? Bear in mind that high gpa's are dime-a-dozen, below median lsat hurts, especially that low.

Duke, ED.


If your above 3.87 (new UVA GPA median) and a 165, just ED UVA. I don't see Duke dipping that low, but why are you not retaking?

But let's take this to PM to not clutter up the thread.

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Re: C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

Postby Lord Randolph McDuff » Mon Sep 03, 2012 12:13 pm

Ruxin1 wrote:
Lord Randolph McDuff wrote:
Ruxin1 wrote:
AllDangle wrote:Would the drop in applicants from last year, and also this year, help someone who is above a schools 75th GPA percentile, but say 2 points below the 25th LSAT percentile?


It really depends on the school, what school do you want to know? Bear in mind that high gpa's are dime-a-dozen, below median lsat hurts, especially that low.


Below median lsat by 1 point hurts the same as a below median lsat by 43 points. Not sure if I understand what you mean.


Technically, but not in a practical sense. Look at LSN


Agreed.

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Re: C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

Postby Ruxin1 » Mon Sep 03, 2012 12:14 pm

Lord Randolph McDuff wrote:
Agreed.


So you are just bringing useless information to the thread because?

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Re: C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

Postby sd1 » Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:02 pm

ASU is up...

http://www.law.asu.edu/admissions/Admissions/FactsandFigures/ClassProfile.aspx

161/163/165
3.31/3.65/3.82

Medians are up in both from last year. No word on class size.

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Re: C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

Postby sd1 » Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:07 pm

Just clicking around the internet--this thread is missing a bunch...

Pepperdine, Florida, Florida State, Lewis & CLark, Iowa, UGA, Indiana Bloomington--have to work today (darn labor day) but can post later if people don't find updates on web.

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Re: C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

Postby WanderingPondering » Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:08 pm

UGA medians- 164/3.67, 189 enrolled

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Re: C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

Postby WanderingPondering » Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:12 pm

Here's a couple Florida schools

UF- 162/3.59 - 287 students
FSU- 160/3.53 - 188 students

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Re: C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

Postby VUSisterRayVU » Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:58 pm

WanderingPondering wrote:Here's a couple Florida schools

UF- 162/3.59 - 287 students
FSU- 160/3.53 - 188 students


Feel like that's a huge hit but I don't know their numbers from last year.

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Re: C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

Postby rglifberg » Mon Sep 03, 2012 7:51 pm

VUSisterRayVU wrote:
WanderingPondering wrote:Here's a couple Florida schools

UF- 162/3.59 - 287 students
FSU- 160/3.53 - 188 students


Feel like that's a huge hit but I don't know their numbers from last year.


Wow,that is a huge hit! 160 was FSU's 25th percentile score last year, this year it's their median. I like it.

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Re: C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

Postby geary86 » Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:35 pm

rglifberg wrote:
VUSisterRayVU wrote:
WanderingPondering wrote:Here's a couple Florida schools

UF- 162/3.59 - 287 students
FSU- 160/3.53 - 188 students


Feel like that's a huge hit but I don't know their numbers from last year.


Wow,that is a huge hit! 160 was FSU's 25th percentile score last year, this year it's their median. I like it.


UF (#48): 162 (0), 3.59 (-.05), 287 (-8)
FSU (#51): 160 (-2), 3.53 (+.06), 188 (-12)

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Re: C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

Postby Nova » Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:51 pm

Lord Randolph McDuff wrote:
iMisto wrote:Why does >75th matter if MEDIANS are the important numbers? How does a 175 affect xSchool's median? Espeically if they're a splitter? 175/3.4?? I mean, unless you can get enough 175s to fill out HALF of the seats, I don't understand why you'd give them $$$. Am I missing something?


They don't matter for usnews ranking, but they do matter for leiters ranking and for pride. I know for me, I laugh at schools like UMN that has like 157 25th, 167 median and 75th. Anyone educated on the law school game can immediately tell that UMN is unabashedly gaming the magazine rankings. I have fears my school will begin to do the same thing actually. It's embarrassing, and completely contrary to everything that the admissions office states.


I go to UMN and dont mind their gaming. With a few exceptions, you either have to have a 3.8+ or a 167+ to get in. Not really an embarrassing standard.

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Re: C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

Postby tbird » Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:42 pm

sd1 wrote:ASU is up...

http://www.law.asu.edu/admissions/Admis ... ofile.aspx

161/163/165
3.31/3.65/3.82

Medians are up in both from last year. No word on class size.


What does this mean the medians are? Is 50th percentile the same as median? (Probably a dumb question)

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Re: C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

Postby top30man » Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:44 pm

tbird wrote:
sd1 wrote:ASU is up...

http://www.law.asu.edu/admissions/Admis ... ofile.aspx

161/163/165
3.31/3.65/3.82

Medians are up in both from last year. No word on class size.


What does this mean the medians are? Is 50th percentile the same as median? (Probably a dumb question)

Yes the median is the 50th percentile.

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Re: C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

Postby justonemoregame » Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:43 am

Pepperdine:

156 (-2) / 162 (-1) / 164 (-1)

3.35 (+.02) / 3.63 (no change) / 3.75 (- .03)

Enrollment: 213 (+11)

Tuition and fees: + 4.99% ($44,980)

Conclusion: Standards down, cost and enrollment up

Iowa: (as of 8-14-12)

158 (0) / 162 (+1) / 164 (0)

3.46 (-.05) / 3.66 (+.02) / 3.8 (-.01)

Enrollment: 155 (-25, or -13.88%)

Resident Tuition and fees: $27,344 (+3.76%)

Standards up, enrollment down


Florida

Resident tuition and fees: $21,421 (+14.48%) (Over three years, this fall's entering class will have to gamble about $10,000 more for their ~65% chance to be an attorney)

Florida State:

Resident tuition and fees: $19,936 (+8.68%)

Georgia

164 (-1)

3.67 (+.08)

189 1Ls (-36, or -16%)

Lewis and Clark:

156 (-1) / 160 (-1) / 162 (-1)

3.24 (+.04) / 3.47 (-.02) / 3.65 (-.03)

Enrollment: 214 (-12, or -5.3%)


Indiana-Bloomington

164 (-2)

3.8 (+.05)

1Ls: 201 (-39, or -16.25%)

Resident tuition and fees: $29,946 +6.45%

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Re: C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

Postby romothesavior » Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:32 am

sd1 wrote:ASU is up...

http://www.law.asu.edu/admissions/Admissions/FactsandFigures/ClassProfile.aspx

161/163/165
3.31/3.65/3.82

Medians are up in both from last year. No word on class size.

DROVES I tell you.

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Re: C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

Postby pwyoung » Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:18 pm

Can somebody explain to me all of these ASU jokes? I feel like I missed a thread.

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Re: C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

Postby justonemoregame » Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:23 pm

pwyoung wrote:Can somebody explain to me all of these ASU jokes? I feel like I missed a thread.


People were joking about the impact of their rankings jump, saying that employers would flock to ASU to hire students because of it.

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Re: C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

Postby geary86 » Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:37 pm

justonemoregame wrote:
pwyoung wrote:Can somebody explain to me all of these ASU jokes? I feel like I missed a thread.


People were joking about the impact of their rankings jump, saying that employers would flock to ASU to hire students because of it.


ASU jumped from #55 in 2009 to #38 in 2010, then took a little break in 2011 (#40), and managed to pull off yet another huge jump this year to #26!

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Re: C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

Postby Huskies13! » Tue Sep 04, 2012 2:47 pm

Any word on UW? That was a school with a HUGE jump last year.

ASU went up in LSAT and GPA last year as well...but so did UW!! Anyone else gone up two years in a row?

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Re: C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

Postby Betharl » Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:53 am

Nothing on NYU/CLS/Penn/NU?

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Re: C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes

Postby LargeNinCharge » Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:57 am

What about Harvard Yale and Columbia?




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