Does Illinois have some interesting data?

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Does Illinois have some interesting data?

Postby justonemoregame » Sat Aug 11, 2012 9:52 am

2011 entering class at Illinois had a 75th LSAT at 168 (~95th percentile) and a 25th of 156 (~67th percentile) in a class of about 200. So roughly 50 people with 168+ and 50 or so 156-

It would be interesting to see how these two groups fared. Or maybe it wouldn't be interesting at all. Somebody leak the data.

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Re: Does Illinois have some interesting data?

Postby LSATSCORES2012 » Sat Aug 11, 2012 12:04 pm

What I'm very curious about is how they managed to attract such a large range of students.

It would also, of course, be interesting to see the correlation between LSAT and class rank. I remember watching a video with someone from LSAC presenting on that, and he said that the problem with most comparisons is that you have such a small window of LSAT scores that you don't have much of a difference to compare it on.

But that's a freaking massive difference!

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Re: Does Illinois have some interesting data?

Postby fatduck » Sat Aug 11, 2012 12:07 pm

twist: the 168s are actually 156s

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Re: Does Illinois have some interesting data?

Postby sunynp » Sat Aug 11, 2012 12:11 pm

fatduck wrote:twist: the 168s are actually 156s

Did they ever publish what the real numbers were? I think it might have been published but I don't know if it was ever posted here.

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Re: Does Illinois have some interesting data?

Postby Bildungsroman » Sat Aug 11, 2012 12:12 pm

LSATSCORES2012 wrote:What I'm very curious about is how they managed to attract such a large range of students.

http://www.uillinois.edu/our/news/2011/ ... Report.pdf

hth

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Re: Does Illinois have some interesting data?

Postby justonemoregame » Sat Aug 11, 2012 12:13 pm

I got the numbers from a pdf posted here:

http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/legalw ... hools.html


By the way, does someone know where the full data set is?

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Re: Does Illinois have some interesting data?

Postby sunynp » Sat Aug 11, 2012 12:15 pm

Bildungsroman wrote:
LSATSCORES2012 wrote:What I'm very curious about is how they managed to attract such a large range of students.

http://www.uillinois.edu/our/news/2011/ ... Report.pdf

hth


Thanks. I didn't remember exactly what had been written about the admissions inflation of data scandal.

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Re: Does Illinois have some interesting data?

Postby Sounder89 » Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:50 pm

If by "interesting" you mean unreliable and falsified, then yes, Illinois does have some interesting data indeed.

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Re: Does Illinois have some interesting data?

Postby justonemoregame » Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:56 pm

well I think after the dust settled, the 25-m-75 was 156-163-168

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Re: Does Illinois have some interesting data?

Postby JoeFish » Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:41 am

justonemoregame wrote:well I think after the dust settled, the 25-m-75 was 156-163-168


That's correct, IIRC. The 75th wasn't a huge difference, but the median and 25th were falsified out the wazoo

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Re: Does Illinois have some interesting data?

Postby justonemoregame » Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:26 pm

This 12-point difference between 25ths and 75ths is the largest difference at any school. The closest is a 10-point diff. at Minnesota 157-167. Most other schools have a variation within 6 LSAT points, and many are bunched closer than that.

Anyway, we'll never see the 1L gpa data from these groups, unless some fed-up admin wants to go out with a bang.

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Re: Does Illinois have some interesting data?

Postby sprocket » Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:50 pm

justonemoregame wrote:2011 entering class at Illinois had a 75th LSAT at 168 (~95th percentile) and a 25th of 156 (~67th percentile) in a class of about 200. So roughly 50 people with 168+ and 50 or so 156-

It would be interesting to see how these two groups fared. Or maybe it wouldn't be interesting at all. Somebody leak the data.



Maybe I should have applied there. Meh :lol:




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