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Re: Academic Misconduct

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:00 am
by Curious1
At my school we have these things called "reprimands", and lots of academic dishonesty cases (as well as most other cases) are punished this way. My dean specifically said at a law school application thingie that these instances are a matter of internal record only, and the physical records would be destroyed upon graduation. He specifically said that you do NOT have to report anything to anyone, and that no one would ever see anything.

Keep in mind that to receive a "reprimand" you would have to be found guilty. If you're found not guilty, you still don't have to report anything to anyone. (Internal disciplinary proceedings are also destroyed upon graduation).

So, like other people said, go talk to your dean. I'm sure they get asked this all the time and will know how to help you. If your school has the same policy as mine (probably many smallerish private schools), then there's no reason to shoot yourself in the foot. If they're a stickler for records (I think most public schools are), then tough luck.

Edit* Oops, guess you did talk to your dean. Sorry dude.

I'll leave the original post to help onlookers.

Re: Academic Misconduct

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:42 am
by Yardbird
Didn't the guy from Suits cheat on a test and couldn't get into law school because of it (or was he kicked out?)

I agree with the addenda regarding how it has affected you positively and what you have learned from it. Be honest as this will be looked at when you apply to the BAR. Regarding your T14 prospects, only one way to find out.

Re: Academic Misconduct

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:11 pm
by Bildungsroman
Curious1 wrote:At my school we have these things called "reprimands", and lots of academic dishonesty cases (as well as most other cases) are punished this way. My dean specifically said at a law school application thingie that these instances are a matter of internal record only, and the physical records would be destroyed upon graduation. He specifically said that you do NOT have to report anything to anyone, and that no one would ever see anything.

Keep in mind that to receive a "reprimand" you would have to be found guilty. If you're found not guilty, you still don't have to report anything to anyone. (Internal disciplinary proceedings are also destroyed upon graduation).

So, like other people said, go talk to your dean. I'm sure they get asked this all the time and will know how to help you. If your school has the same policy as mine (probably many smallerish private schools), then there's no reason to shoot yourself in the foot. If they're a stickler for records (I think most public schools are), then tough luck.

Edit* Oops, guess you did talk to your dean. Sorry dude.

I'll leave the original post to help onlookers.

Your undergrad dean doesn't determine what you do and do not have to disclose to law schools.

Re: Academic Misconduct

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:47 pm
by taxman128
"Have you ever been dismissed from; placed on academic warning, academic probation, or conduct probation at; or subjected to
any academic or conduct disciplinary action in any of the colleges, universities, or graduate or professional schools you have
attended? (Please review copies of your transcripts to confirm the accuracy of your response to this question.)"

http://www.law.gmu.edu/assets/files/adm ... cation.pdf

Re: Academic Misconduct

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 7:07 pm
by elizcbeth
Guys, there is NO WAY to make a generalization about disclosure because every school's wording is going to be different. Some will ask for warnings, any punishments, even if expunged. In my book, morally, that means full disclosure even if there's no written record. Some will only ask for certain punishments like probation or suspensions. In any case, the best thing to do is READ CAREFULLY.

Also, btw, even if there's no written record on file, you just wrote one on the internet.

As for your chances, I think if people can be accepted with DUI and criminal records, I think cheating and learning from it should be no problem. But that's a guess and you're still going to need outstanding grades and LSAT.

Re: Academic Misconduct

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 7:12 pm
by ze2151
let's see, law schools are now accepting people who didn't even frigging apply. pretty sure if you're qualified otherwise, you'll be just fine.

www.top-law-schools.com

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:02 pm
by BVest