Law School Application Super Spreadsheet, 2012-2013

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Re: Law School AppReqs & Fee Waiver Tracker 2012-2013

Postby BigZuck » Wed Sep 19, 2012 2:08 pm

justonemoregame wrote:Should I e-mail a different person and ask for a waiver lol?



I got the same stock lying email from them. They only offer unsolicited merit based.

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Re: Law School AppReqs & Fee Waiver Tracker 2012-2013

Postby R86 » Wed Sep 19, 2012 2:09 pm

justonemoregame wrote:Should I e-mail a different person and ask for a waiver lol?


The one sent today came from "sbeckman@law.utexas.edu" if that helps.

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Re: Law School AppReqs & Fee Waiver Tracker 2012-2013

Postby cahwc12 » Wed Sep 19, 2012 2:19 pm

you know, they say not to make admissions decisions based on the admissions office... but that's shady as fuck

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Re: Law School AppReqs & Fee Waiver Tracker 2012-2013

Postby Yardbird » Wed Sep 19, 2012 2:39 pm

cahwc12 wrote:you know, they say not to make admissions decisions based on the admissions office... but that's shady as fuck
BU did that to me. Told me they didnt do merit based solicited and turned around and gave another person one within an hour. Sucks more because they're my alma mater (though I should know about their shadiness by now...)

and for all who are fretting, I will still be updating the spreadsheet. Classes are starting to pick up, though, so it might be more of a twice a week or three times a week update now.

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Re: Law School AppReqs & Fee Waiver Tracker 2012-2013

Postby Yardbird » Wed Sep 19, 2012 2:56 pm

Added two new columns in the spreadsheet:

The first is for ASW dates, stipends, deposit deadlines & amounts, orientation dates and matriculation dates. Please post details here or PM me as you get accepted (some of you Duke PT'rs should have some info by now).

The second is a list of TLS users ATTENDING a particular institution. Please PM me if you would like to be included in the list, it is completely voluntary.

I'm also renaming the thread to Law School Application Super Thread

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Re: Law School AppReqs & Fee Waiver Tracker 2012-2013

Postby bernaldiaz » Wed Sep 19, 2012 2:58 pm

Every time I see this thread get bumped I think that NYU sent out fee waivers. Am disappoint.

Also, I got USC unsolicited fee waiver today. I think people have already reported USC but I didn't see anyone else say they got one today. Will not be applying just letting people know.

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Re: Law School Application Super Spreadsheet, 2012-2013

Postby danitt » Wed Sep 19, 2012 3:33 pm

I'll do y'all one better. In the space of three hours I got two separate emails from two different people at Georgetown. The first said I couldn't get a waiver, the next said I had been granted one. The second person was right.

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Re: Law School AppReqs & Fee Waiver Tracker 2012-2013

Postby SaintsTheMetal » Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:12 pm

WhiteyCakes wrote:
justonemoregame wrote:Should I e-mail a different person and ask for a waiver lol?


From the sounds of it, they must only do need-based (even though they mention strong academic record???), unless you are selected for the CRS waiver


After attempting to solicit fee waivers from like 30 schools, the "We do not offer merit based fee waivers" line is when they are just NOT interested in your numbers. Often these same schools do offer (even solicited) merit based waivers to other people. Even T14s do this.

My guess is it strings you along just enough that they can collect a $100 app fee from you while still getting to reject you for a selectivity boost

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Re: Law School AppReqs & Fee Waiver Tracker 2012-2013

Postby guinness1547 » Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:39 pm

SaintsTheMetal wrote:
WhiteyCakes wrote:
justonemoregame wrote:Should I e-mail a different person and ask for a waiver lol?


From the sounds of it, they must only do need-based (even though they mention strong academic record???), unless you are selected for the CRS waiver


After attempting to solicit fee waivers from like 30 schools, the "We do not offer merit based fee waivers" line is when they are just NOT interested in your numbers. Often these same schools do offer (even solicited) merit based waivers to other people. Even T14s do this.

My guess is it strings you along just enough that they can collect a $100 app fee from you while still getting to reject you for a selectivity boost



I got that response from Texas when I tried to solicit one a few weeks ago, but as I mentioned I got an unsolicited fee waiver from them this morning. You could be right, but there are at least some exceptions.

My guess is that there are certain form letters that each school sends out when they don't want to give out their solicited waivers. They differ slightly from school to school. Some schools say they don't give out waivers, others say they only go out through CRS, etc.

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Re: Law School Application Super Spreadsheet, 2012-2013

Postby Crowing » Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:09 pm

Aww yeah got mail from Cooley today :mrgreen:

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Re: Law School Application Super Spreadsheet, 2012-2013

Postby yarsten » Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:22 pm

So did anyone else miss the UT boat? (anybody with pretty good numbers?)
Feeling sorry for myself since I've gotten all the others so far. :cry:

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Re: Law School Application Super Spreadsheet, 2012-2013

Postby cahwc12 » Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:38 pm

My question is, in the age of the internet, why the fuck would a school lie about merit waivers? A simple "sorry, but you do not qualify for a merit-based waiver, but you may still be a strong applicant and should consider applying" email would be fine with me.

Lying just sets me off a lot, and I'm sure it does to others as well.


Has ANYONE requested a merit-based fee waiver and been told that they simply don't qualify?

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Re: Law School Application Super Spreadsheet, 2012-2013

Postby R86 » Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:44 pm

cahwc12 wrote:Has ANYONE requested a merit-based fee waiver and been told that they simply don't qualify?


Let me go email Yale. brb.

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Re: Law School Application Super Spreadsheet, 2012-2013

Postby spicyyoda17 » Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:51 pm

yarsten wrote:So did anyone else miss the UT boat? (anybody with pretty good numbers?)
Feeling sorry for myself since I've gotten all the others so far. :cry:


Missed the UT boat as well.

Also missed Columbia and Chicago.

Still don't know why.

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Re: Law School Application Super Spreadsheet, 2012-2013

Postby elterrible78 » Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:20 pm

spicyyoda17 wrote:
yarsten wrote:So did anyone else miss the UT boat? (anybody with pretty good numbers?)
Feeling sorry for myself since I've gotten all the others so far. :cry:


Missed the UT boat as well.

Also missed Columbia and Chicago.

Still don't know why.


I actually e-mailed Columbia, and they said it's all done through CRS, and if I qualify they will be in touch with me. I suspect there will be another round going out even before the October test. Never got an e-mail from UT either.

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Re: Law School Application Super Spreadsheet, 2012-2013

Postby Crowing » Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:47 pm

It does seem like there's something at play other than numbers. I'm not surprised I missed CLS, but I didn't get Chi or Penn and I know there are non-urms who have lower numbers than me who got them.

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Re: Law School Application Super Spreadsheet, 2012-2013

Postby elterrible78 » Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:59 pm

Crowing wrote:It does seem like there's something at play other than numbers. I'm not surprised I missed CLS, but I didn't get Chi or Penn and I know there are non-urms who have lower numbers than me who got them.


That definitely could be true (and I didn't get Penn either). But I recall seeing someone posting his actual e-mail from Columbia, and it specified that the waiver was solely based on his LSAT score. Hmmmm.

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Re: Law School Application Super Spreadsheet, 2012-2013

Postby Lavitz » Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:21 pm

elterrible78 wrote:
spicyyoda17 wrote:
yarsten wrote:So did anyone else miss the UT boat? (anybody with pretty good numbers?)
Feeling sorry for myself since I've gotten all the others so far. :cry:


Missed the UT boat as well.

Also missed Columbia and Chicago.

Still don't know why.


I actually e-mailed Columbia, and they said it's all done through CRS, and if I qualify they will be in touch with me. I suspect there will be another round going out even before the October test. Never got an e-mail from UT either.


Missed UT.

Also missed Columbia. Thank you for taking the initiative and e-mailing them, but I think I'm just going to submit this weekend if it doesn't show up tomorrow. I don't want to be waiting here in October saying, "surely Columbia will send me my waiver any day now."
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Re: Law School Application Super Spreadsheet, 2012-2013

Postby guinness1547 » Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:21 pm

elterrible78 wrote:
Crowing wrote:It does seem like there's something at play other than numbers. I'm not surprised I missed CLS, but I didn't get Chi or Penn and I know there are non-urms who have lower numbers than me who got them.


That definitely could be true (and I didn't get Penn either). But I recall seeing someone posting his actual e-mail from Columbia, and it specified that the waiver was solely based on his LSAT score. Hmmmm.

I got one last year with a 169, but have received nothing this year even though I improved my score(barely)

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Re: Law School Application Super Spreadsheet, 2012-2013

Postby BlueJeanBaby » Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:43 pm

Hi I have a question. If you get rejected from an early decision (or sent to the regular cycle) that means you cannot do another early decision to a school if the spreadsheet says "No" under column K? I did not know this.

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Re: Law School Application Super Spreadsheet, 2012-2013

Postby lovejopd » Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:34 pm

Plz Update this info Thx!

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Columbia posted:

http://web.law.columbia.edu/admissions/ ... ss-profile

Class of 2015
170/172/174 (-1)
3.58/3.71/3.83 (+.01)

Class size: 368 (-29)

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NYU:

LSAT 75th% / 25th%: 173/169
GPA 75th% / 25th%: 3.8/3.5
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Yale was just posted:

Class of 2015
170/173/176(-1)
3.84/3.90/3.94

Class size: 203 (-2)

http://www.law.yale.edu/admissions/profile.htm
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ETA:
Harvard
170 (-1) 175 (-1)
3.77 (-0.01) 3.95 (-0.02)
557 (-2)

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BU:
Class Size: 211 (-31, -12.8%)
LSAT Median: 166 (-1)
GPA Median: 3.75 (+.03)

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Penn viewbook (here -- https://www.law.upenn.edu/admissions/jd/viewbook.php -- the link was included in the fee waiver email) has 25/75 stats for the c/o 2015:

LSAT 164/171
GPA 3.56/3.94

Class size of 243 as of 8/20

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Boston College:

Students 246 (-22)
GPA: 3.6 (-.06)
LSAT: 164 (-1)

http://www.bc.edu/content/bc/schools/la ... ofile.html

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Georgetown's number were already posted, but here is some more information.

LSAT = 169
UGPA= 3.73 (record high)

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UCLA

LSAT median: 168 (unchanged)
GPA Median: 3.78 (unchanged)
Enrolled: 309

http://www.law.ucla.edu/prospective-stu ... ofile.aspx

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Re: Law School Application Super Spreadsheet, 2012-2013

Postby one_by_one » Fri Sep 21, 2012 12:43 pm

Has anyone gotten a waiver from NYU yet?

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Re: Law School Application Super Spreadsheet, 2012-2013

Postby Yardbird » Fri Sep 21, 2012 5:40 pm

BlueJeanBaby wrote:Hi I have a question. If you get rejected from an early decision (or sent to the regular cycle) that means you cannot do another early decision to a school if the spreadsheet says "No" under column K? I did not know this.
Yes but I'd just double check with the school to make sure.

More importantly, read the ED contract when you go to submit the app at both schools. School A might let you apply to other ED programs if you're denied but School B might not (and vice versa). I know CCN don't allow multiple EDs in a single cycle (so if you ED somewhere else and get rejected you have to RD CCN and vice versa if you ED CCN and get rejected).

UVA, Penn and Mich seem to allow multiple EDs, but again - read the contracts.

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Re: Law School Application Super Spreadsheet, 2012-2013

Postby Crowing » Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:48 pm

Has anybody received a waiver from Cornell or NU since the beginning of September? I wasn't signed up for CRS yet when the first waves went out so I'm hoping to catch the second waves if they come.

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Re: Law School Application Super Spreadsheet, 2012-2013

Postby elterrible78 » Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:39 pm

Crowing wrote:Has anybody received a waiver from Cornell or NU since the beginning of September? I wasn't signed up for CRS yet when the first waves went out so I'm hoping to catch the second waves if they come.


I didn't hear from Cornell either by e-mail or snail mail about a fee waiver, but I did have one hidden, so that may be worth checking out.




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