What is the most efficient way to tackle LG?

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Bilqis
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What is the most efficient way to tackle LG?

Postby Bilqis » Tue May 29, 2012 1:49 pm

Hello

As like almost everybody else, LGs are my bottleneck . I do not perform consistently on them, sometimes I get them all right and sometimes all wrong. I was wondering if anyone of you have devised an easy and time efficient method that you can apply with all kinds of LGs and it consistently gets you correct answers?


I will be very appreciative and grateful.

Yeah one note: I already know the intuitive consecutive slots
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Nova
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Re: What is the most efficient way to tackle LG?

Postby Nova » Tue May 29, 2012 1:50 pm

Do all 260 games 3 times a piece. There is an LSAT forum. go there.

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Re: What is the most efficient way to tackle LG?

Postby bp shinners » Wed May 30, 2012 3:20 pm

1: Read the introduction and make your setup
2: Read the rules and symbolize them using your preferred method
3: Recheck your symbolization of the rules
4: Identify any player that doesn't show up in the rules
5: Make deductions
a) Check your first rule. See if it interacts with any other rule (either because they share a player, both talk about the same slot, both limit distributions)
b) Repeat step 5a for each other rule
6: Make scenarios
a) Check to see if any single player (or group of players) is so constrained that they're only able to fit in 2-3 different places. Make scenarios based on these placements, especially if they interact with any other rules. Bam, you now have 2-3 skeletons that define all the possibilities
b) Check to see if any single slot is so constrained that there are only 1-2 different players that will go there. Make scenarios based on those players in that slot. Bam, you now have 1-2 skeletons that define all the possibilities.
c) Check if there's anything else that limits the possibilities to 2-3. Make scenarios based on this.
7: Go to the questions
a) Elimination (which of the following could be a complete and accurate) - Don't look at your work. Read a rule, eliminate an answer or two. This is the fastest way, by far, to approach these problems.
b) Conditional ("If _______", or anything that gives you a new piece of information) - Draw a new diagram with the piece of information and any deductions you made in your setup. See if the new piece of info interacts with your first rule. Then, your second, and so on until you've gotten through all of the rules. If one of the rules lets you make a deduction, start over again with the first rule (but this time you can skip the rule you already used to make a deduction). If you have scenarios, see if the new piece of info limits you to 1-2 of them, and use them.
c) Absolute ("Which of the following must/could be true/false?") - If you made the deductions, you should be able to answer these without doing any work. Use your setups/scenarios to answer them. If you don't have the answer in your setup, you missed a deduction. If this is a "Which of the following Must Be True?" question, the answer will be the deduction, and you can add it to your setup. THIS IS THE ONLY TIME YOU SHOULD EVER ADD ANYTHING TO YOUR SETUP AFTER YOU FINISH IT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE GAME!
8: Do the Happy Dance.

Bilqis
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Re: What is the most efficient way to tackle LG?

Postby Bilqis » Wed May 30, 2012 6:53 pm

bp shinners wrote:1: Read the introduction and make your setup
2: Read the rules and symbolize them using your preferred method
3: Recheck your symbolization of the rules
4: Identify any player that doesn't show up in the rules
5: Make deductions
a) Check your first rule. See if it interacts with any other rule (either because they share a player, both talk about the same slot, both limit distributions)
b) Repeat step 5a for each other rule
6: Make scenarios
a) Check to see if any single player (or group of players) is so constrained that they're only able to fit in 2-3 different places. Make scenarios based on these placements, especially if they interact with any other rules. Bam, you now have 2-3 skeletons that define all the possibilities
b) Check to see if any single slot is so constrained that there are only 1-2 different players that will go there. Make scenarios based on those players in that slot. Bam, you now have 1-2 skeletons that define all the possibilities.
c) Check if there's anything else that limits the possibilities to 2-3. Make scenarios based on this.
7: Go to the questions
a) Elimination (which of the following could be a complete and accurate) - Don't look at your work. Read a rule, eliminate an answer or two. This is the fastest way, by far, to approach these problems.
b) Conditional ("If _______", or anything that gives you a new piece of information) - Draw a new diagram with the piece of information and any deductions you made in your setup. See if the new piece of info interacts with your first rule. Then, your second, and so on until you've gotten through all of the rules. If one of the rules lets you make a deduction, start over again with the first rule (but this time you can skip the rule you already used to make a deduction). If you have scenarios, see if the new piece of info limits you to 1-2 of them, and use them.
c) Absolute ("Which of the following must/could be true/false?") - If you made the deductions, you should be able to answer these without doing any work. Use your setups/scenarios to answer them. If you don't have the answer in your setup, you missed a deduction. If this is a "Which of the following Must Be True?" question, the answer will be the deduction, and you can add it to your setup. THIS IS THE ONLY TIME YOU SHOULD EVER ADD ANYTHING TO YOUR SETUP AFTER YOU FINISH IT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE GAME!
8: Do the Happy Dance.



Thank you so much! Definitely helpful!

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Re: What is the most efficient way to tackle LG?

Postby North » Wed May 30, 2012 9:09 pm

bp shinners wrote:1: Read the introduction and make your setup
2: Read the rules and symbolize them using your preferred method
3: Recheck your symbolization of the rules
4: Identify any player that doesn't show up in the rules
5: Make deductions
a) Check your first rule. See if it interacts with any other rule (either because they share a player, both talk about the same slot, both limit distributions)
b) Repeat step 5a for each other rule
6: Make scenarios
a) Check to see if any single player (or group of players) is so constrained that they're only able to fit in 2-3 different places. Make scenarios based on these placements, especially if they interact with any other rules. Bam, you now have 2-3 skeletons that define all the possibilities
b) Check to see if any single slot is so constrained that there are only 1-2 different players that will go there. Make scenarios based on those players in that slot. Bam, you now have 1-2 skeletons that define all the possibilities.
c) Check if there's anything else that limits the possibilities to 2-3. Make scenarios based on this.
7: Go to the questions
a) Elimination (which of the following could be a complete and accurate) - Don't look at your work. Read a rule, eliminate an answer or two. This is the fastest way, by far, to approach these problems.
b) Conditional ("If _______", or anything that gives you a new piece of information) - Draw a new diagram with the piece of information and any deductions you made in your setup. See if the new piece of info interacts with your first rule. Then, your second, and so on until you've gotten through all of the rules. If one of the rules lets you make a deduction, start over again with the first rule (but this time you can skip the rule you already used to make a deduction). If you have scenarios, see if the new piece of info limits you to 1-2 of them, and use them.
c) Absolute ("Which of the following must/could be true/false?") - If you made the deductions, you should be able to answer these without doing any work. Use your setups/scenarios to answer them. If you don't have the answer in your setup, you missed a deduction. If this is a "Which of the following Must Be True?" question, the answer will be the deduction, and you can add it to your setup. THIS IS THE ONLY TIME YOU SHOULD EVER ADD ANYTHING TO YOUR SETUP AFTER YOU FINISH IT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE GAME!
8: Do the Happy Dance.

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