Law school admissions is flawed

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Re: Law school admissions is flawed

Postby charliep » Thu May 10, 2012 10:26 pm

charliep wrote:
Tom Joad wrote:
splitter13 wrote:You mad Bro! If you didn't do a hard major, you didn't earn you're degree bro!

I make typos all the time, but I like to point them out when a poster is explaining how their intellect is superior to everybody else's.


dont forget the commas before "bro"


Also, i should've applied to cornell

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Re: Law school admissions is flawed

Postby thederangedwang » Thu May 10, 2012 10:30 pm

To be fair to the OP, he never said, implied, or argued that he was smarter than any of us.

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Re: Law school admissions is flawed

Postby Tom Joad » Thu May 10, 2012 10:32 pm

thederangedwang wrote:To be fair to the OP, he never said, implied, or argued that he was smarter than any of us.

He called me retarded if I was a Communications major who couldn't get B+s.

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Re: Law school admissions is flawed

Postby rinkrat19 » Thu May 10, 2012 10:33 pm

How can you possibly say that the chemE major with the 2.7 is "at the top of his major"? That's probably around median at his school. Guaranteed there are engineering majors with 4.0 or close to it.

The 4.0 chemE major will beat out the 4.0 basketweaving major. That's where it evens out.

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Re: Law school admissions is flawed

Postby Mr. Pancakes » Thu May 10, 2012 10:36 pm

splitter13 wrote:Instead of the insults, tell me how it makes sense to compare those majors

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Re: Law school admissions is flawed

Postby Nova » Thu May 10, 2012 10:39 pm

splitter13 wrote:You mad Bro! If you didn't do a hard major, you didn't earn you're degree bro!


Nah. Lol. You mad.

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Re: Law school admissions is flawed

Postby woeisme » Thu May 10, 2012 10:47 pm

splitter13 wrote:I want you to think about this scenario for a minute.

You have a chemical engineering major who is at the top of his major with a 2.7 GPA. Getting a C+ in a class is hard. He took Calc 5, Physics 3, Econometric's, ect.

You have a Communication major who has a 3.7 GPA. If you don't get a B+ in a class you're mentally retarded. He took Communications 101, Interpersonal Communication.

The communication major scores a 165, the engineering major scores a 175. The communication major gets into Cornell. The engineering major would be lucky to break >30.

Explain to me how this makes sense? I would like to hear some non liberal arts majors too.


I'll take a stab at this puzzle. ... Communications major is a URM and engineering major is not?

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Re: Law school admissions is flawed

Postby 3|ink » Thu May 10, 2012 10:57 pm

splitter13 wrote:I want you to think about this scenario for a minute.

You have a chemical engineering major who is at the top of his major with a 2.7 GPA. Getting a C+ in a class is hard. He took Calc 5, Physics 3, Econometric's, ect.

You have a Communication major who has a 3.7 GPA. If you don't get a B+ in a class you're mentally retarded. He took Communications 101, Interpersonal Communication.

The communication major scores a 165, the engineering major scores a 175. The communication major gets into Cornell. The engineering major would be lucky to break >30.

Explain to me how this makes sense? I would like to hear some non liberal arts majors too.

Maybe the communications major didn't cry about how unfair life has treated him in his personal statement.

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Re: Law school admissions is flawed

Postby LexLeon » Fri May 11, 2012 12:20 am

No one with a 2.7 is at the top of her major.

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Re: Law school admissions is flawed

Postby daddylonglegs » Fri May 11, 2012 12:30 am

Engineers just don't get that the REAL elite of the world are humanities majors. They're smart, sure, but they aren't savvy. OP is a typical example of this.

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Re: Law school admissions is flawed

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Re: Law school admissions is flawed

Postby indo » Fri May 11, 2012 1:34 am

splitter13 wrote:I want you to think about this scenario for a minute.

You have a chemical engineering major who is at the top of his major with a 2.7 GPA. Getting a C+ in a class is hard. He took Calc 5, Physics 3, Econometric's, ect.

You have a Communication major who has a 3.7 GPA. If you don't get a B+ in a class you're mentally retarded. He took Communications 101, Interpersonal Communication.

The communication major scores a 165, the engineering major scores a 175. The communication major gets into Cornell. The engineering major would be lucky to break >30.

Explain to me how this makes sense? I would like to hear some non liberal arts majors too.


If getting C+ is hard that mean the person does not master the materials and does not deserve to be in the top of his major.

My friends and I are Regents scholars in one of University of California campus (top 50 ) .

We all have great GPA and the lowest GPA among us is 3.70

I major in Political Science and some of my friends (Regents Scholars) major in Chemical engineering, Mechanical engineering, Civil engineering,Electrical

engineering, Computer science, biological science, Physics and etc.

I know Chemical Engineering is one of the toughest major but if you ask some of my friends, they will say it is easy because they master the materials.

If you ask them to write composition , mastering literature and /or non engineering materials, they will say it sound like Greek to them.

So stop saying your major is tough , hard core and etc. Master the materials and you will be a scholar.

I know law school admissions is unfair. Life is unfair in general but we do need to do the best we can.

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Re: Law school admissions is flawed

Postby indo » Fri May 11, 2012 1:42 am

thederangedwang wrote:
Adm.Doppleganger wrote:Hey man, I feel you. It sucks. But maybe that's just nature's way of telling engineering students not to go to law school. I never really got what motivates a student to spend 4 years studying hard sciences and then go to law school.

Basically the argument I was going to make if I decided to respond to you seriously.

Every school has their own admissions criteria. Med schools like science majors, music schools like music majors, law schools like liberal arts majors.

You cant blame the schools since you are the one who is taking a non-traditional path, then not doing well on that path.

Likewise, a journalism/communication major would similarly be disadvantaged if he/she was applying for something in the science field.

It works both ways man.


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Each one of us has different TALENTS.

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Re: Law school admissions is flawed

Postby rinkrat19 » Fri May 11, 2012 1:42 am

daddylonglegs wrote:Engineers just don't get that the REAL elite of the world are humanities majors. They're smart, sure, but they aren't savvy. OP is a typical example of this.
This is as stupid as the OP.

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Re: Law school admissions is flawed

Postby Mr. Pancakes » Fri May 11, 2012 8:18 am

Go ask an engineering major to write a paper. At my undergrad half of them couldn't write a readable paragraph.

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Re: Law school admissions is flawed

Postby IAFG » Fri May 11, 2012 8:50 am

Mr. Pancakes wrote:Go ask an engineering major to write a paper. At my undergrad half of them couldn't write a readable paragraph.

Some of the engineers I know in law school are incredible writers.

But then again, DF.

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Re: Law school admissions is flawed

Postby BearState » Fri May 11, 2012 10:12 am

Retake and ED UVA (or NU if you have dat engineering WE)

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Re: Law school admissions is flawed

Postby Mr. Pancakes » Fri May 11, 2012 10:22 am

IAFG wrote:
Mr. Pancakes wrote:Go ask an engineering major to write a paper. At my undergrad half of them couldn't write a readable paragraph.

Some of the engineers I know in law school are incredible writers.

But then again, DF.

some bears don't shit in the woods.

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Re: Law school admissions is flawed

Postby rinkrat19 » Fri May 11, 2012 11:16 am

Mr. Pancakes wrote:Go ask an engineering major to write a paper. At my undergrad half of them couldn't write a readable paragraph.
Spend some time in the PS advice forum. Half is probably better than most other majors, since hardly anyone can write a readable paragraph coming out of undergrad these days.

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Re: Law school admissions is flawed

Postby Ludo! » Fri May 11, 2012 11:30 am

What is this bullshit that a 175 wouldn't crack the top 30?

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Re: Law school admissions is flawed

Postby stillwater » Fri May 11, 2012 11:32 am

That an admissions process is flawed is a stunning discovery. If only we could find that PERFECT admissions process.

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Re: Law school admissions is flawed

Postby 09042014 » Fri May 11, 2012 11:59 am

splitter13 wrote:I want you to think about this scenario for a minute.

You have a chemical engineering major who is at the top of his major with a 2.7 GPA. Getting a C+ in a class is hard. He took Calc 5, Physics 3, Econometric's, ect.

You have a Communication major who has a 3.7 GPA. If you don't get a B+ in a class you're mentally retarded. He took Communications 101, Interpersonal Communication.

The communication major scores a 165, the engineering major scores a 175. The communication major gets into Cornell. The engineering major would be lucky to break >30.

Explain to me how this makes sense? I would like to hear some non liberal arts majors too.


I've earned myself a 2.8 in EE at a very good engineering program and got a 176 on LSAT. You can't convince me that the CE you described didn't slack the fuck off during his UG. That person is smart (see 175 LSAT) but was bottom 1/4-1/3rd in his class? Lazy or really bad at math.

Sure he probably worked more than the 3.7 Communications major, but he didn't work hard relative to his competition. He slacked off compared to other CE majors.

Also that CE major won't be lucky to break T30, he'll probably get decent scholarships at most T30 schools. And he's got a shot at NW/UVA/Gtown. And a 3.7/165 might get into Cornell, but probably won't.


There is some discrimination, but it's mostly due to curves. At my program 3.1 was median. Getting a 3.5 was hard as fuck. You could get jobs from Intel and Microsoft with a 3.2. I think it's BS that someone with a 3.5 in EE is automatically out at HYS, and at best gets into CCN at sticker.

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Re: Law school admissions is flawed

Postby 09042014 » Fri May 11, 2012 12:01 pm

IAFG wrote:
Mr. Pancakes wrote:Go ask an engineering major to write a paper. At my undergrad half of them couldn't write a readable paragraph.

Some of the engineers I know in law school are incredible writers.

But then again, DF.


All the engineers I know at law schools were getting B's or B+'s in CLR.

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Re: Law school admissions is flawed

Postby rinkrat19 » Fri May 11, 2012 12:05 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
IAFG wrote:
Mr. Pancakes wrote:Go ask an engineering major to write a paper. At my undergrad half of them couldn't write a readable paragraph.

Some of the engineers I know in law school are incredible writers.

But then again, DF.


All the engineers I know at law schools were getting B's or B+'s in CLR.
I'm freaked out about learning legal writing, but I'm confident in my regular writing skills to start off with, at least. I took a bunch of extra writing in UG because I knew I could get As. At the very least it exercised a skill we didn't use much in engineering classes.

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Re: Law school admissions is flawed

Postby Mr. Pancakes » Fri May 11, 2012 12:08 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
IAFG wrote:
Mr. Pancakes wrote:Go ask an engineering major to write a paper. At my undergrad half of them couldn't write a readable paragraph.

Some of the engineers I know in law school are incredible writers.

But then again, DF.


All the engineers I know at law schools were getting B's or B+'s in CLR.

well, I wasn't referring to engineer majors in law school, but, yea...




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