Diagnose this applicant

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bmore_md
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Diagnose this applicant

Postby bmore_md » Wed May 09, 2012 6:19 pm

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/wa810smart

He mentions weak softs and bad speeding tickets. What was he going 150 in a 50?

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Re: Diagnose this applicant

Postby rinkrat19 » Wed May 09, 2012 6:30 pm

"potentially controversial" PS sounds iffy.

I really don't think a lack of softs would have caused a cycle that bad.

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Re: Diagnose this applicant

Postby bmore_md » Wed May 09, 2012 8:19 pm

Why would anyone write a controversial PS? So dumb.

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Jacky D.
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Re: Diagnose this applicant

Postby Jacky D. » Wed May 09, 2012 9:27 pm

Could be the PS or possibly a negative LOR. I've heard of a lot of cycles ruined by bad LORs.

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Re: Diagnose this applicant

Postby doomed123 » Wed May 09, 2012 9:29 pm

Jacky D. wrote:Could be the PS or possibly a negative LOR. I've heard of a lot of cycles ruined by bad LORs.


Just curious - how would anyone know if they got a bad LOR? I mean, we don't get to see them...

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Re: Diagnose this applicant

Postby Jacky D. » Wed May 09, 2012 9:33 pm

doomed123 wrote:
Jacky D. wrote:Could be the PS or possibly a negative LOR. I've heard of a lot of cycles ruined by bad LORs.


Just curious - how would anyone know if they got a bad LOR? I mean, we don't get to see them...


In my undergrad, I worked with about 7-8 adcomms on a regular basis from six different law schools in my home state. They would always share stories and advice.

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Re: Diagnose this applicant

Postby Davidbentley » Wed May 09, 2012 9:33 pm

doomed123 wrote:
Jacky D. wrote:Could be the PS or possibly a negative LOR. I've heard of a lot of cycles ruined by bad LORs.


Just curious - how would anyone know if they got a bad LOR? I mean, we don't get to see them...

Many professors allow students to see the letters before they are sent to LSAC.

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Re: Diagnose this applicant

Postby delusional » Wed May 09, 2012 9:45 pm

It's not as bad as it looks at first glance. He didn't get into Yale, okay, nobody does. He was waitlisted at Harvard - it happens. He got into NYU, and hasn't heard from Columbia. Then outside of the T6, the schools that YP did so.

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Re: Diagnose this applicant

Postby roaringeagle » Wed May 09, 2012 9:52 pm

I saw a similar candidate with a controversial PS in the Princeton Review Personal Statement book. He also didn't do too well. He may just be nuts. Law schools want employable people, not people with bats in the belfry.

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Re: Diagnose this applicant

Postby bk1 » Wed May 09, 2012 9:54 pm

The applicant's idiocy probable shows through on their app.

1. They can't even tell whether something's controversial. It's not that complicated.
2. They actually submitted something potentially controversial. Poor judgment and they probably have similar poor judgment in other areas.

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Re: Diagnose this applicant

Postby zozin » Wed May 09, 2012 10:03 pm

You're falsely assuming that admission is all about numbers.

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Re: Diagnose this applicant

Postby bmore_md » Wed May 09, 2012 11:51 pm

delusional wrote:It's not as bad as it looks at first glance. He didn't get into Yale, okay, nobody does. He was waitlisted at Harvard - it happens. He got into NYU, and hasn't heard from Columbia. Then outside of the T6, the schools that YP did so.


Would a school like Penn really YP a candidate like this? Theoretically they may have had a different application for different schools but it is unlikely. Wouldn't Penn/Michigan/etc. see the controversial PS and realize they have a chance at this person?

And, zozin, I can understand schools like Yale and Stanford ignoring the numbers. But Harvard's record shows these types of numbers are almost always going to get you in.

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Re: Diagnose this applicant

Postby Tom Joad » Thu May 10, 2012 12:04 am

Damn bad cycle. Must not be a smart applicant like all us TLSers.

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Re: Diagnose this applicant

Postby soj » Thu May 10, 2012 4:42 am

Hard to tell if it's YP. Could be just a red flag. YP could be one factor--even applicants with bad softs are tough (i.e. expensive) to recruit with schools like NYU and Columbia (though not this case) throwing money at applicants with these numbers.

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Re: Diagnose this applicant

Postby bceagles182 » Thu May 10, 2012 5:01 am

This guy seems like he lacks common sense to me... Why on earth would he even waste time applying to Chicago Kent? He's from Texas, so SMU was a sufficient safety. As were BC and Texas with those #s, quite frankly.

I agree with the above that this cycle was clearly a result of his PS or a negative LOR.




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