Do they really average?

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zidane13
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Do they really average?

Postby zidane13 » Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:57 pm

I'm sitting on a 3.82 and a 170 with laser beam focus on getting into NYU. I know NYU says they average LSATs, but I've heard and read people say that that's not actually the case. I figure I just need a 171, and I'd give myself a 50/50 chance at getting it, so I'd love to have another chance at getting it, especially if the averaging business is just lip service.

Anybody have a clear read on this? Thanks, y'all.

PS I read a lot but don't ever post here but this forum is really cool. It's one of the best examples I can think of of the Internet actually living up to its potential. So thanks to everybody who contributes.

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Re: Do they really average?

Postby aekea » Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:01 pm

zidane13 wrote:I'm sitting on a 3.82 and a 170 with laser beam focus on getting into NYU. I know NYU says they average LSATs, but I've heard and read people say that that's not actually the case. I figure I just need a 171, and I'd give myself a 50/50 chance at getting it, so I'd love to have another chance at getting it, especially if the averaging business is just lip service.

Anybody have a clear read on this? Thanks, y'all.

PS I read a lot but don't ever post here but this forum is really cool. It's one of the best examples I can think of of the Internet actually living up to its potential. So thanks to everybody who contributes.

Why do you think you'd have a 50/50 chance with a 171 and a 3.82?

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Re: Do they really average?

Postby zidane13 » Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:28 pm

Sorry, I was unclear. I'd say I have a 50/50 chance of getting a 171 on a retake. From what LawSchoolNumbers says, it seems like I'd be good to go at NYU with a 171. With a 170, though, right on the edge of the cliff. Is averaging for real though?

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Re: Do they really average?

Postby Excellent117 » Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:45 pm

You have as good of a chance at dropping to a 169 from a 170 as you do at going up to a 171.

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Re: Do they really average?

Postby Tiago Splitter » Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:34 pm

Excellent117 wrote:You have as good of a chance at dropping to a 169 from a 170 as you do at going up to a 171.


Which is why the OP said he has a 50/50 chance of improving to 171. Of course, depending on the amount of prep the OP did the odds of improvement could be much more or less likely than even.

If NYU averaged I'm almost certain I would not have gotten in.

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Re: Do they really average?

Postby kwais » Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:44 pm

I'm skeptical of averaging, given my own experience (an admittedly small sample)

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Re: Do they really average?

Postby ahnhub » Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:46 pm

Yeah, you really are smack on the border of admit/WL. Honestly if you applied early this cycle I think you woulda gotten in. If you apply ED I give you good odds as well.

But if NYU's what you really want and you think you have a 50/50 shot at improving, go ahead and retake. 1 point will probably get you in for sure, and 2-3 points might get you $$. I can't imagine a lower score the 2nd time will hurt you, unless it's significantly lower (I'm assuming from your post you think you did just about your PT score or slightly under-performed it).

If you do any better, they will look at your highest score, period.

If you don't retake, I'd ED. If you do and get a 171+, I think you're good to go RD.

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Re: Do they really average?

Postby zidane13 » Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:51 pm

Thanks for the help, gang. I was averaging about 172 on PTs, but you hear a lot about people dropping off a few points on the real deal. I'm gonna give it another shot. Go big or go home, right?

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Re: Do they really average?

Postby Mal Reynolds » Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:58 pm

Same LSAT and slightly higher GPA than you and Im NYU/scholly secure. But I would suggest retaking to get some more money at CCN anyway. Good luck.

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Re: Do they really average?

Postby AmoryB » Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:16 pm

I had 3 LSAT scores, 171 and two mid-upper 160's, and I was able to sweep CCN. So, I highly doubt they averaged based on my experience.

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Re: Do they really average?

Postby rayiner » Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:24 pm

Averaging is a myth. Retake, get a 173 and go to Harvard.

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Re: Do they really average?

Postby zidane13 » Tue May 01, 2012 1:04 pm

rayiner wrote:Averaging is a myth. Retake, get a 173 and go to Harvard.


Can't believe I didn't think of this sooner.

1. Realize going to Harvard is awesome
2. ????
3. PROFIT

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Re: Do they really average?

Postby rayiner » Tue May 01, 2012 1:14 pm

zidane13 wrote:
rayiner wrote:Averaging is a myth. Retake, get a 173 and go to Harvard.


Can't believe I didn't think of this sooner.

1. Realize going to Harvard is awesome
2. ????
3. PROFIT


If you can get a 170 you can get a 173.

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Re: Do they really average?

Postby roaringeagle » Tue May 01, 2012 1:15 pm

Why NYU? I have a close friend who went to NYU, took huge amounts of debt and was very bitter that their OCI people treated him like shit. BTW he has a job with a top firm nevertheless, but he hates on his school.

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Re: Do they really average?

Postby zidane13 » Tue May 01, 2012 1:23 pm

roaringeagle wrote:Why NYU? I have a close friend who went to NYU, took huge amounts of debt and was very bitter that their OCI people treated him like shit. BTW he has a job with a top firm nevertheless, but he hates on his school.


I'd like to do PI and NYU's LRAP is better than MVP.

Rayiner: just messing with you, appreciate the vote of confidence.

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Re: Do they really average?

Postby zidane13 » Thu Jul 05, 2012 8:03 pm

Wanted to thank the posters who set me straight about retaking - I retook in June and jumped to a 174, with which I will skate into NYU, hopefully with a bit of cash trailing in my wake. After being pretty jumpy on my first LSAT, I felt a lot better knowing how everything goes going into my second one and it felt much smoother and easier (with the exception of the goddamn -10 curve) and obviously went much better.

FWIW, I didn't study all that much for my retake, only retook a few PTs. I was just in a much steadier place mentally having jumped through all the hoops already and knowing that I was capable of getting a better score. Throwing this out there in case it's useful to anybody.

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Re: Do they really average?

Postby jessemllr » Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:59 pm

Thanks. You just gave me the encouregment I need to retake my 167 to try N hit 170. I hope that the nerves settle the second time around




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