JusticeHarlan wrote:124/183 work in the Mountain States. That's less than 70%. How is that misleading?Lord Randolph McDuff wrote:You said less than 70% of people work in Colorado, and that is the misleading statistic.They could be staying in Colorado. But they're not working in Colorado. So I don't care where they are. The point is employment. If you're saying people can go UC without ties and wind up unemployed in Colorado, I think you'll find that assertion completely uncontroversial.In the context of the convo we were having, it implied that 30%+ of people were going elsewhere (or, in your view, probably going to where they have "ties").
You seem too obtuse to get this, so I'll say it again:
It doesn't matter where they live, it matters both if, and where, they got a job. You said, 90% are working in state. Let's look at the possibilities:
(1) If they got a job in Colorado.
(2) If they got a job elsewhere.
(3) If they didn't get a job and live in Colorado.
(4) If they didn't get a job and live elsewhere.
The 84% number only looks at (1) and (2), and says 84% of the people who were in either (1) or (2) were in (1). But that's not the question. The question is, for a prospective student going to UC to work in Colorado, what are the chances they wind up in (1)? We have to ask, how many people, out of (1) (2) (3) and (4) wound up in (1). That's not 90% or 84%. It's 124/183, or about 68%. The 84% statistic only looks at those who have jobs. Get it?
I know the 84% statistic only looks at people who have jobs. I get that, and that was my point. As soon as I realized you purposely counted the people who were unemployed and looking (2.7%) and those who were unemployed and not looking (9.8%), I made it a point to call your statement misleading, not incorrect.
This side issue is unimportant. The data on this particular school shows that the majority come in without ties and the majority get work in Colorado-- 40% to 68%. That was the (minor) anecdote that all this was about.
Everyones assumptions about whether those not working were all without ties is hilarious. Groupthink desperately protecting groupthink.