rayiner wrote:mrwarre85 wrote:Who was the fist person to claim that "ties" to a given market were so important? I went back on the TLS archives and couldn't find a single mention of "ties" in all the countless threads from 2009.
Surely if you moved from Manhattan to Fayetteville, Arkansas to attend UA you may have trouble fitting in with the yocals and this might hinder your job hunt. However, the first thing an employer is going to consider is whether you are going to add value to the business. If you are going to add more value than the "homer," you are going to get the gig.
Best I can tell, it looks like about six months ago someone mentioned "ties" and created a plausible argument around "ties" and now the first thing everyone asks applicants is where they have "ties." Hilarious.
TLS didn't have a legal employment forum in 2009, and consequently most people didn't have a reason to stick around to give OCI advice. After the establishment f the legal employment forum, I definitely remember talking about ties during my OCI in 2010.
Also, having gone through OCI, ties are the real deal. Every Chicago firm grilled me about ties despite my going to Northwestern, even national V25 firms.
Also, suck it: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=66974&p=1799120&hilit=+ties#p1799120
Yikes, I read through some of the posts in thread around the above linked post. It is scary reading those old posts. People were debating much the same way then, some people denying that things were bad, others trying to say the market was really bad. People refusing to listen to advice. Other people saying T6 or T14 with a great scholarship is the only way to go.
That linked post is around the time that layoffs were being announced with regular frequency. And some people tried to claim that things weren't that bad. I guess I am realizing that many people aren't going to listen no matter what you tell them. Right now I feel like trying to advise people is a waste of time unless you just agree that they have a smart plan, should borrow as much as they need, and that with hustle they can have a great career.