Cultural Narratives on the Legal Profession

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Cultural Narratives on the Legal Profession

Postby NoJob » Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:31 am


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Re: Cultural Narratives on the Legal Profession

Postby Tom Joad » Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:48 am

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Re: Cultural Narratives on the Legal Profession

Postby mattviphky » Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:39 pm

Wow, that is pretty interesting...I wonder what is going to happen to legal education over the next 10 years? Hopefully, applicants become self-aware, and begin staying away from dangerous schools. 40,000 JDs for 20,000 jobs. Well like 10,000 of those JDS are from like 10 TTTT schools. There are good TTTTs, ones that charge little, have small classes, are public, and are pretty upfront that the purpose of the school is to provide lawyers for underserved parts of the country (University of Nort Dakota, Southern Illinois University, etc). But these are the exception. Many are expensive, have large classes, and are sometimes in more populated (in terms of people and law schools) areas. They oversaturate stagnate markets, and they leave their students with little capability to pay off debt. Applicants may stop applying to these schools when they see what pits they are, but that might be a few years down the road. If the ABA wants to gain some credibility, not be an Eichmann, they need to be more proactive in how they handle accredidations. Close Cooley (yes, ALL the campuses), FCLS, Barry, JMLS, NYLS, etc. Or just limit fucking class sizes. I know Harvard and Georgetown have like 550 a class, so I don't know what a reasonable cap would be, but close schools, limit classes, just fucking do SOMETHING!

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Re: Cultural Narratives on the Legal Profession

Postby PigBodine » Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:29 pm

The one sentence answer to why the ABA hasn't done more in the way of industry paternalism is that they're absolutely terrified of antitrust suits from prospective schools. In fact, I think there's some evidence that the balance is actually shifting toward looser accreditation standards -- they got ensnarled in a nasty antitrust suit a few years back with a school that was denied accreditation (the massachusetts school of law), and, although their argument for the present standards held up in court, the ABA seemed generally pretty cowed by the suit, and promised to 'reform its accreditation process and eliminate some of its law school accreditation standards'. So I wouldn't really hold your breath on that front.

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Re: Cultural Narratives on the Legal Profession

Postby rad lulz » Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:39 pm

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Re: Cultural Narratives on the Legal Profession

Postby Nelson » Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:45 pm

Nobody else finds it ironic that the guy teaches at MSU? And is a HLS grad? An army of Paul Campos's taking their paychecks from their TTTs without shame while writing articles about the doom of the legal profession. And people want to join legal academia?

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Re: Cultural Narratives on the Legal Profession

Postby in2win » Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:48 pm

Don't you think if schools are no longer allowed to insanely advertise themselves with employment statistics which have no meaning whatsoever and promises of a prosperous legal career, which I don't understand how they are allowed to do right now anyway, then a lot of the problem would be solved??

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Re: Cultural Narratives on the Legal Profession

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