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john1990
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New Law School Rankings

Postby john1990 » Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:19 am

Does anyone know when the 2012 ratings come out? 2011 is marked as being released in March, so should we expect the new rankings soon? :mrgreen:

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Re: New Law School Rankings

Postby d.schoenfeld16 » Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:28 am

It will probably be early-to-mid March again, but honestly it doesn't really matter, academic prestige changes at a glacial pace and the movement likely to be seen outside of the top 20 has little to no relevancy.

Edit: The most interesting thing will be if they change the way post-graduate employment is calculated/reported.

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Re: New Law School Rankings

Postby john1990 » Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:46 am

d.schoenfeld16 wrote:It will probably be early-to-mid March again, but honestly it doesn't really matter, academic prestige changes at a glacial pace and the movement likely to be seen outside of the top 20 has little to no relevancy.

Edit: The most interesting thing will be if they change the way post-graduate employment is calculated/reported.


yea i agree, excluding Emory last year, movement is minimal, and lawschooltransparency is a better resource. But i like to see how they rank the schools.

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Re: New Law School Rankings

Postby CanadianWolf » Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:54 pm

Interesting to see where Illinois is ranked after the Paul Pless matter.

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Re: New Law School Rankings

Postby ahnhub » Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:20 pm

Of course on TLS a couple of spots up or down in the T-14 will bring the trolls out like woah.

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Re: New Law School Rankings

Postby mattviphky » Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:29 pm

CanadianWolf wrote:Interesting to see where Illinois is ranked after the Paul Pless matter.


Yeah, as a probably matriculant this is something I would love to know. It won't really impact MY decision, but it might turn away a bunch of other people...which may (please please) lead to more money to the rest of us?

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Re: New Law School Rankings

Postby RonnyDworkin » Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:17 pm

ahnhub wrote:Of course on TLS a couple of spots up or down in the T-14 will bring the trolls out like woah.



This is very true, esp. for CCN.

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Re: New Law School Rankings

Postby MachineLemon » Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:36 pm

I wanna see the new NLJ 250 stats.

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Re: New Law School Rankings

Postby Transferthrowaway » Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:38 pm

YHChicago





Let me get this ball rolling.

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Re: New Law School Rankings

Postby ahnhub » Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:48 pm

MachineLemon wrote:I wanna see the new NLJ 250 stats.


No you don't. It will be depressing, and not necessarily indicative of the current climate. I'm guessing only four or five schools are gonna break 40%.

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Re: New Law School Rankings

Postby MachineLemon » Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:23 am

ahnhub wrote:
MachineLemon wrote:I wanna see the new NLJ 250 stats.


No you don't. It will be depressing, and not necessarily indicative of the current climate. I'm guessing only four or five schools are gonna break 40%.


I bet that'll be closer to 6. Think the 50%+ schools will stay above 40%. Also, two of the schools in the 40%-50% range are H and S, so they're set too. Regardless, it could be really nasty, but I haven't signed any loans so better to get bad news now.

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Re: New Law School Rankings

Postby smokeylarue » Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:15 am

MachineLemon wrote:
ahnhub wrote:
MachineLemon wrote:I wanna see the new NLJ 250 stats.


No you don't. It will be depressing, and not necessarily indicative of the current climate. I'm guessing only four or five schools are gonna break 40%.


I bet that'll be closer to 6. Think the 50%+ schools will stay above 40%. Also, two of the schools in the 40%-50% range are H and S, so they're set too. Regardless, it could be really nasty, but I haven't signed any loans so better to get bad news now.


Is the new NLJ250 numbers (which will represent the Class of 2011 I think) supposed to be worse or better than the Class of 2010?

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Re: New Law School Rankings

Postby Nelson » Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:44 pm

smokeylarue wrote:
MachineLemon wrote:
ahnhub wrote:
MachineLemon wrote:I wanna see the new NLJ 250 stats.


No you don't. It will be depressing, and not necessarily indicative of the current climate. I'm guessing only four or five schools are gonna break 40%.


I bet that'll be closer to 6. Think the 50%+ schools will stay above 40%. Also, two of the schools in the 40%-50% range are H and S, so they're set too. Regardless, it could be really nasty, but I haven't signed any loans so better to get bad news now.


Is the new NLJ250 numbers (which will represent the Class of 2011 I think) supposed to be worse or better than the Class of 2010?

It will be worse. C/O 2010 had OCI in 2008, 2011 went through in the summer/fall 2009.

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Re: New Law School Rankings

Postby ahnhub » Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:21 pm

smokeylarue wrote:
MachineLemon wrote:
ahnhub wrote:
MachineLemon wrote: Is the new NLJ250 numbers (which will represent the Class of 2011 I think) supposed to be worse or better than the Class of 2010?

It will be worse. C/O 2010 had OCI in 2008, 2011 went through in the summer/fall 2009.


But keep in mind that those numbers are indicative of what was happening in 2009-2010, not now. 2010 OCI went a little better than 2009, and this past OCI apparently showed a marked increase in private-sector hiring (at least in the T-14). That's another reason all these ranking systems and other metrics are kind of dumb--they're like almost two years behind.




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