T1hopeful wrote: flem wrote: splitbrain wrote:
Paul Campos wrote:It doesn't work that way, at all. The career prospects at the number 30 school look way more like those at the number 195 school than they look like those at the T-6 schools (which aren't so great either when you consider debt, risk, and psychic costs).
I get that it's not linear but that's an incredibly misleading statement right there.
Right, so my chance at success is roughly the same if I attend Colorado-Boulder or Cooley?
I was thinking the same thing. I get that T30 schools have no where near the job opportunities of T6, but there's no way that W&L, W&M, BC, ND, UNC, et al are closer to Appalachian and Cooley in career prospects than they are to CCN. I mean give me a break.
Actually, I think its probably about right. First of all, Cooley is an aberration. It is the absolute worst of the worst, so its a bad example. But I really don't think its a stretch to say that some TTT/TTTT is closer in placement to a T30 than a T30 is to a T6. (Of course, it also depends on the T30 you choose.)
Just to throw out some (somewhat) educated guesses as to employment data, I'll bet easily 80%+ of T6 students are working as full time, JD-required, permanent lawyers 9 months out of law school. That number is probably 40-50% at a lot of the T1 schools you just mentioned. At some TTTTs of the world, it may be 10%. Sure, a T30 school may have a lot higher percentage of employed students, but most of the students below median at a school like Emory, America, George Mason, W&L, WUSTL, etc. are going to be facing the same prospects as the average students at Dayton, Valpraiso, Northern Illinois, Texas Wesleyan, etc. (hint: it rhymes with "funemployed.")
For biglaw placement (and theseare not educated guesses, but based on real data), the difference between a WUSTL/IUB/UNC/etc. and a T6 is probably 40-50% or more. If the Cooleys of the world are placing probably 1-2% or so into NLJ 250 biglaw, then the biglaw prospects of a school like IUB are much closer to Cooley than Chicago.
I don't think what Campos said was really off.