ITT: TLS tells me to retake, no matter what (NEW POLL)

(Applications Advice, Letters of Recommendation . . . )

What to do?

RETAKE
1
33%
RETAKE
1
33%
RETAKE
1
33%
 
Total votes: 3

User avatar
Gail
Posts: 977
Joined: Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:11 am

Re: Do what you do best, TLS

Postby Gail » Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:23 pm

enough with the chances. cover your bases. just score a 180. m i right? :D

AriGoldButNicer
Posts: 367
Joined: Sun Oct 09, 2011 2:19 pm

Re: Do what you do best, TLS

Postby AriGoldButNicer » Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:12 pm

iamrobk wrote:You have a good chance at Penn with ED if you increase 1-2 points, and a good chance without ED with a 174+. Probably similar for MV too.

idk. i don't think 170 3.3 has a decent shot at penn.... u really need a 171 for mvp, and then ud only get if u ed.

User avatar
Errzii
Posts: 158
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2011 7:09 am

Re: Do what you do best, TLS

Postby Errzii » Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:52 pm

AriGoldButNicer wrote:
iamrobk wrote:You have a good chance at Penn with ED if you increase 1-2 points, and a good chance without ED with a 174+. Probably similar for MV too.

idk. i don't think 170 3.3 has a decent shot at penn.... u really need a 171 for mvp, and then ud only get if u ed.


It's not unreasonable to think 170/3.3 with ED has a decent shot at penn. Searching LSN with the appropriate filters supports this.

170/3.35 http://lawschoolnumbers.com/CuriousR(2003) - in
170/3.32 http://lawschoolnumbers.com/barriaga (2007) - in
170/3.37 http://lawschoolnumbers.com/vcbrewer (2009) - in
170/3.27 http://lawschoolnumbers.com/ww202 (2010) - in

4/4 seems like a decent shot to me but of course it's a really small sample.

User avatar
20130312
Posts: 3842
Joined: Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:53 pm

Re: Do what you do best, TLS

Postby 20130312 » Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:04 pm

NO MORE
Last edited by 20130312 on Wed May 23, 2012 10:05 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Errzii
Posts: 158
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2011 7:09 am

Re: Do what you do best, TLS

Postby Errzii » Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:10 pm

InGoodFaith wrote:Can't tell you how much time I've spent looking at Penn's LSN data. I'd feel secure with 172+. 170 or 171 would be a tougher call for me in terms of where to use my ED. That's when I would look to ED to Michigan most likely.


The nice thing about EDing to Michigan over UVA/Penn is supposedly they still consider ED applicants for schollys, although the whole starting in the summer thing is a bit weird.

User avatar
Nelson
Posts: 2061
Joined: Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:43 am

Re: Do what you do best, TLS

Postby Nelson » Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:14 pm

InGoodFaith wrote:
Errzii wrote:
AriGoldButNicer wrote:
iamrobk wrote:You have a good chance at Penn with ED if you increase 1-2 points, and a good chance without ED with a 174+. Probably similar for MV too.

idk. i don't think 170 3.3 has a decent shot at penn.... u really need a 171 for mvp, and then ud only get if u ed.


It's not unreasonable to think 170/3.3 with ED has a decent shot at penn. Searching LSN with the appropriate filters supports this.

170/3.35 http://lawschoolnumbers.com/CuriousR(2003) - in
170/3.32 http://lawschoolnumbers.com/barriaga (2007) - in
170/3.37 http://lawschoolnumbers.com/vcbrewer (2009) - in
170/3.27 http://lawschoolnumbers.com/ww202 (2010) - in

4/4 seems like a decent shot to me but of course it's a really small sample.


Can't tell you how much time I've spent looking at Penn's LSN data. I'd feel secure with 172+. 170 or 171 would be a tougher call for me in terms of where to use my ED. That's when I would look to ED to Michigan most likely.

I think the 170 line looks better this time of year than it will later in the cycle. I can think of at least one 170 app with a smaller split than yours who was deferred this cycle. That said, 172+ should be totally doable for you given your current score. Retaking and polishing every part of your app in the meantime is the right call.

User avatar
Opie
Posts: 1356
Joined: Thu Aug 11, 2011 1:27 pm

Re: Do what you do best, TLS

Postby Opie » Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:10 am

IMO, if you're not being turned down by at least your reachiest reach (or at least W/L), then you're not reaching far enough. Retake and V is totally yours.

User avatar
20130312
Posts: 3842
Joined: Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:53 pm

Re: Do what you do best, TLS

Postby 20130312 » Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:58 am

Opie wrote:IMO, if you're not being turned down by at least your reachiest reach (or at least W/L), then you're not reaching far enough. Retake and V is totally yours.


This was pretty much my line of thinking. The worst thing that's happened so far was Fordham waitlisted me at the end of December, and then accepted me about two weeks later in January. I didn't even send a LOCI or any updates :shock:

User avatar
johansantana21
Posts: 855
Joined: Sat Jul 23, 2011 7:11 pm

Re: Do what you do best, TLS

Postby johansantana21 » Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:09 am

Retake for a near sure thing ED to UVA. Penn isn't that great a shot though.

User avatar
20130312
Posts: 3842
Joined: Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:53 pm

Re: Do what you do best, TLS

Postby 20130312 » Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:07 am

johansantana21 wrote:Penn isn't that great a shot though.


Even with a high LSAT (172+) and ED?

User avatar
Errzii
Posts: 158
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2011 7:09 am

Re: Do what you do best, TLS

Postby Errzii » Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:12 am

I think he's just saying that out of MVP uva is more likely to happen than Penn or Michigan. The typical response from TLS for splitters has always been retake, ED to uva given how splitter friendly they are. Personally, I would say if you can score 172+ on the retake just ED to your favorite out of those 3.

User avatar
20130312
Posts: 3842
Joined: Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:53 pm

Re: Do what you do best, TLS

Postby 20130312 » Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:18 pm

Shooter wrote:Also, you have to ask yourself, "What would Harvey Specter do?"


How did I miss this? :lol:

PigBodine
Posts: 121
Joined: Wed Oct 26, 2011 12:59 pm

Re: Do what you do best, TLS

Postby PigBodine » Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:43 pm

Errzii wrote:I think he's just saying that out of MVP uva is more likely to happen than Penn or Michigan. The typical response from TLS for splitters has always been retake, ED to uva given how splitter friendly they are. Personally, I would say if you can score 172+ on the retake just ED to your favorite out of those 3.


You don't have to just pick one, though. UVa's ED turnaround is so quick (15 days, iirc?) that you can ED there the first day it's available, and then take a second swing at P or M if you get dinged. The only downside to that is that P is his first choice. It doesn't really work the other way around (P, then, if rejected, V), because Penn's not obligated to respond until December or January, and V prefers their EDs to be there early in the cycle.

User avatar
20130312
Posts: 3842
Joined: Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:53 pm

Re: Do what you do best, TLS

Postby 20130312 » Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:31 pm

After having already withdrawn, I just received a full tuition offer from Cardozo with a 2.95 stip (top 80%). I currently reside in South Jersey, but I went to school in North Jersey and have multiple legal contacts there. Would love to work in New York. Is this an option? The thought of not having any debt aside from cost of living is appealing...

They must be desperate to fill out their class.

User avatar
jrthor10
Posts: 364
Joined: Fri Jul 08, 2011 10:33 am

Re: Do what you do best, TLS

Postby jrthor10 » Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:39 pm

InGoodFaith wrote:After having already withdrawn, I just received a full tuition offer from Cardozo with a 2.95 stip (top 80%). I currently reside in South Jersey, but I went to school in North Jersey and have multiple legal contacts there. Would love to work in New York. Is this an option? The thought of not having any debt aside from cost of living is appealing...

They must be desperate to fill out their class.


I don't think it is really an option, especially if you want biglaw. If you would be happy doing an okay PI job, then yes, consider it.

We have similar #'s and I am interested to see what happens with your cycle next year. Best of luck!

lsatcrazy
Posts: 388
Joined: Tue May 31, 2011 8:08 pm

Re: Do what you do best, TLS

Postby lsatcrazy » Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:43 pm

I would definitely say retake LSAT and reapply, with a focus on Virginia/Northwestern.

User avatar
buckilaw
Posts: 840
Joined: Fri May 07, 2010 1:27 am

Re: Do what you do best, TLS

Postby buckilaw » Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:54 pm

With an extra point on the LSAT and some well written essays Mich is a very real possibility.

If you kill the LSAT Virginia is a very real possibility.

If for some reason you really want V and can afford to you could think about establishing residency thus increasing your chances.

User avatar
dingbat
Posts: 4976
Joined: Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:12 pm

Re: Do what you do best, TLS

Postby dingbat » Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:41 pm

1) try to negotiate BU and Fordham. Doesn't hurt to ask for a scholly. If you get a decent amount, that might sway you
2) take June LSAT. If you do really well, you can withdraw from wherever you've deposited. If you bomb, then you also have an answer

Dozo for free is an option, but it depends on your long term goals and how important minimal debt is.

Make a decision based on what you have, then retake and reevaluate when the results come in

User avatar
NR3C1
Posts: 52
Joined: Sat May 14, 2011 10:52 pm

Re: Do what you do best, TLS

Postby NR3C1 » Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:33 am

InGoodFaith,

What about finding a more exciting job and career and forgetting law school? Why do you have to either go to law school or "[c]ontinue working boring job and suck it up, nancy"? Aren't there more options in life?

But with the three options you mention, definitively retake. Paying for law school right now and for the foreseeable future is a stupid move.

User avatar
2014
Posts: 5831
Joined: Sat Jun 05, 2010 3:53 pm

Re: Do what you do best, TLS

Postby 2014 » Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:28 am

You are probably going to need to ED to any of MVP to get in and doing so would give you a good shot at any of the 3.
If you don't ED be prepared for WLs, don't expect to get into any off the bat though it wouldn't be totally unheard of.

That assumes you manage a 172+

I applied with a 175/3.3 this year so I've spent a good deal of time combing over LSN for various years as well as having anecdotal evidence from my own cycle.

User avatar
20130312
Posts: 3842
Joined: Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:53 pm

Re: Do what you do best, TLS

Postby 20130312 » Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:35 pm

Congrats TLS, you've scared me away from law school for now. I'll be back next cycle for your advice. Now it's time to hit the LSAT books and occasionally troll here.

User avatar
lovejopd
Posts: 548
Joined: Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:00 pm

Re: Do what you do best, TLS

Postby lovejopd » Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:56 pm

InGoodFaith wrote:Congrats TLS, you've scared me away from law school for now. I'll be back next cycle for your advice. Now it's time to hit the LSAT books and occasionally troll here.

Rooting for you~ :D

User avatar
boosk
Posts: 381
Joined: Thu May 05, 2011 6:31 pm

Re: Do what you do best, TLS

Postby boosk » Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:35 pm

InGoodFaith... You've always been such a prick on here... to myself and others... that's all I have to contribute.

User avatar
20130312
Posts: 3842
Joined: Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:53 pm

Re: Do what you do best, TLS

Postby 20130312 » Sat Apr 28, 2012 2:20 am

boosk wrote:InGoodFaith... You've always been such a prick on here... to myself and others... that's all I have to contribute.


Image

User avatar
emkay625
Posts: 1834
Joined: Sat Dec 05, 2009 11:31 pm

Re: Do what you do best, TLS

Postby emkay625 » Sat Apr 28, 2012 2:27 am

Definitely option 2.




Return to “Law School Admissions Forum”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: MSNbot Media and 1 guest