Is Cornell Generally Considered the Least Impressive Ivy?

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Is Cornell Generally Considered the Least Impressive Ivy?

Postby BeerMaker » Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:48 am

or is it just law school? If so, why is this? Obviously they are a good academic institution.

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Re: Is Cornell Generally Considered the Least Impressive Ivy?

Postby kwais » Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:56 am

Both. For various reasons, some legit, some not. Indeed they are.

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Re: Is Cornell Generally Considered the Least Impressive Ivy?

Postby KMaine » Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:58 am

Not really sure why you are asking, but here is my impression: For undergrad, Brown is somewhat less impressive, Dartmouth is somewhat more impressive. Some graduate programs are some of the best in the country.

As to why, Ithaca is a great place, but may not attract the same type of students as some other locations. That said, the has been a great place for me to attend, people do seem pretty impressed with it, and it has gotten me where I need to go. Employers are overall pretty impressed with Cornell, and I would say it opens up nearly as many doors as a place like Penn.

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Re: Is Cornell Generally Considered the Least Impressive Ivy?

Postby viacavour » Sun Dec 18, 2011 11:04 am

I think its considered the least elite. This is because a) it has an acceptance rate far higher than any other ivy. Last year its acceptance rate was 18% while HYP was 6-8%. Even other Ivies have much lower acceptance rates (9% at Brown, 11% at Dartmouth)

(http://www.theivycoach.com/2015-ivy-lea ... stics.html)

And b) its half SUNY public school.

But as for being less academically impressive I don't know how to actually judge that.

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Re: Is Cornell Generally Considered the Least Impressive Ivy?

Postby CanadianWolf » Sun Dec 18, 2011 11:06 am

Cornell has a large enrollment & is the only hybrid public/private university in the country. All of the other Ivies (Brown, Penn, Harvard, Yale, Dartmouth, Princeton & Columbia) are private schools.

P.S. Because three of its seven colleges are supported by public funds, some light heartedly refer to Cornell as SUNY-Ithaca.

P.P.S. It is not recommended, however, to use this slang reference in your Cornell Law School PS.

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Re: Is Cornell Generally Considered the Least Impressive Ivy?

Postby FlanAl » Sun Dec 18, 2011 11:13 am

Is it more impressive than Notre-Dame?

Beer maker your threads crack me up.

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Re: Is Cornell Generally Considered the Least Impressive Ivy?

Postby FlanAl » Sun Dec 18, 2011 11:13 am

also if that is a self tar then you should probably be in Ithaca.

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Re: Is Cornell Generally Considered the Least Impressive Ivy?

Postby JustE » Sun Dec 18, 2011 11:42 am

FlanAl wrote:also if that is a self tar then you should probably be in Ithaca.


Agreed.

And yes, Cornell is generally considered the least impressive ivy. Fortunately, that doesn't matter to people who didn't attend an ivy.

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Re: Is Cornell Generally Considered the Least Impressive Ivy?

Postby SchopenhauerFTW » Sun Dec 18, 2011 9:23 pm

Least elite is still elite.

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Re: Is Cornell Generally Considered the Least Impressive Ivy?

Postby lsatcrazy » Sun Dec 18, 2011 9:29 pm

T1: Harvard Yale Princeton
T2: Columbia Penn(Wharton) Dartmouth
T3:Cornell Brown Penn(Non-Wharton)

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Re: Is Cornell Generally Considered the Least Impressive Ivy?

Postby yale2011 » Sun Dec 18, 2011 9:38 pm

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Re: Is Cornell Generally Considered the Least Impressive Ivy?

Postby Betharl » Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:15 pm

Just my own personal opinion.

HP
Y
Penn (Wharton)
Columbia
Penn (Non Wharton)
Cornell Brown Dartmouth

I really don't think there is an appreciable difference in prestige between CBD. If anything, I think Cornell is better known and gets props from me for offering more programs.

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Re: Is Cornell Generally Considered the Least Impressive Ivy?

Postby ConfidenceMan2 » Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:29 pm

What does this thread have to do with law school admissions?

And for what it's worth, I think most of us who aren't from the NE would consider only HYP "Ivy" in some magical, super-elite sense and the others just elite schools who happen to be in some ivy sports conference (without giving a flying friend about distinctions between them). Cornell, incidentally, is far more impressive than the others because of Andrew Bernard.

I don't care about anything I wrote in that last paragraph. Mostly I'm posting because I cannot grasp the point of this thread in this forum. Possibly, you're asking about the prestige of Ivy law schools, which seems like a ridiculous question. If that's not your question, however, this thread seems even less sensible. Sorry if I sound like an ass... maybe you could explain yourself?

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Re: Is Cornell Generally Considered the Least Impressive Ivy?

Postby ben4847 » Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:33 pm

What is Penn Wharton v. Penn non-Wharton? Do they have two undergraduate schools?

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Re: Is Cornell Generally Considered the Least Impressive Ivy?

Postby Betharl » Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:09 am

ConfidenceMan2 wrote:I don't care about anything I wrote in that last paragraph. Mostly I'm posting because I cannot grasp the point of this thread in this forum. Possibly, you're asking about the prestige of Ivy law schools, which seems like a ridiculous question. If that's not your question, however, this thread seems even less sensible. Sorry if I sound like an ass... maybe you could explain yourself?


You do have point, particularly because the OP also had a thread discussing the lay prestige of Notre Dame just a few days ago. Seems he is quite interested in how people will perceive his degree(s). Still, I don't think he needs to explain himself. This an online forum, if everything posted was both new and relevant, there would be very little posted at all. Maybe it's not the best thread, but then again, you didn't have to click it!

ben4847 wrote:What is Penn Wharton v. Penn non-Wharton? Do they have two undergraduate schools?


Wharton is Penn's business school, and probably the clearcut/easiest route if your goal is UG->Wall Street.

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Re: Is Cornell Generally Considered the Least Impressive Ivy?

Postby Pato_09 » Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:27 am

Super Elite or Just Elite

Still got me a 160,000/year in my early twenties.

That's all that matters (at least for me).
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Re: Is Cornell Generally Considered the Least Impressive Ivy?

Postby beachbum » Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:53 am

Finally another thread where we can rank things.

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Re: Is Cornell Generally Considered the Least Impressive Ivy?

Postby oldad » Mon Dec 19, 2011 1:16 am

I'm at CU for UG and I think the stigma is definitely related to our public/private status (I'm in a public college). I don't have an anecdote representing the stigma, I just know it's thrown around on message boards in a pejorative way. However, it's kinda like GQ ranking us as the douchiest college in America; some people take it really personally and other people take it in stride and realize, as intimated above, that worse things could happen to someone than attending the least prestigious ivy. No defense on the douchey charge though. GQ was largely dead on lol.

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Re: Is Cornell Generally Considered the Least Impressive Ivy?

Postby cutecarmel » Mon Dec 19, 2011 1:35 am

SchopenhauerFTW wrote:Least elite is still elite.


Which school that is the best of the best is the worst of the best of the best? Does it really matter? Ivy league is ivy league. I think the "least impressive" ivy is a pretty petty discussion.

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Re: Is Cornell Generally Considered the Least Impressive Ivy?

Postby MrPapagiorgio » Mon Dec 19, 2011 1:42 am

More anti-Cornell trolling. Cool story, bro.

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Re: Is Cornell Generally Considered the Least Impressive Ivy?

Postby Pato_09 » Mon Dec 19, 2011 1:43 am

We are the Ben Roethlisberger of the Ivy's.

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Re: Is Cornell Generally Considered the Least Impressive Ivy?

Postby AreJay711 » Mon Dec 19, 2011 1:46 am

Pato_09 wrote:We are the Ben Roethlisberger of the Ivy's.

More like the Alex Smith.

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Re: Is Cornell Generally Considered the Least Impressive Ivy?

Postby AntipodeanPhil » Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:18 am

I love ranking things! Somebody start a thread where we can rank other things!

Here is my contribution (a variation on Betharl's):

H
YP
Penn (Wharton)
Columbia
Penn (Non Wharton)
Dartmouth
Cornell Brown

I think Brown would be ahead of Cornell if not for the name. 'Brown' isn't even an impressive color.

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Re: Is Cornell Generally Considered the Least Impressive Ivy?

Postby beachbum » Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:07 am

AntipodeanPhil wrote:'Brown' isn't even an impressive color.


Agreed; blue is definitely the most prestigious color, followed by red and purple, and then green in the next tier. Brown is near the bottom, only slightly better than orange (lol such a TTT color). Pink's prestige really depends on which part of the country you're in.

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Re: Is Cornell Generally Considered the Least Impressive Ivy?

Postby AntipodeanPhil » Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:19 am

beachbum wrote:
AntipodeanPhil wrote:'Brown' isn't even an impressive color.

Agreed; blue is definitely the most prestigious color, followed by red and purple, and then green in the next tier. Brown is near the bottom, only slightly better than orange (lol such a TTT color). Pink's prestige really depends on which part of the country you're in.

Okay, so:

Blue
Pink (San Francisco)
Red, Purple
Green
...
Pink (the rest of the country)
Yellow, Brown
Orange

I added yellow. I was going to add white and black, but I don't want this getting political.




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