On the future of law practice from an 80 y/o Partner:

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Re: On the future of law practice from an 80 y/o Partner:

Postby Bildungsroman » Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:21 pm

romothesavior wrote:
Bildungsroman wrote:
romothesavior wrote:
Bildungsroman wrote:tl;dr version: some old guy, as they are wont to do, blandly reminisces about how much better things were back in the day, glossing over all the negatives and artificially inflating all the positives.

Yeah, but he's not exactly wrong in this case. He lacks perspective on the industry as a whole, but there is no question that the investment has gotten substantially worse since his day.

So you just want to sit around and recite bland, oversimplified aphorisms?

Uhh... no?

Listen, we get the legal market has changed over the past 55 years. Nobody is disputing that. The post by someone who heard from someone that the legal market is bad is only interesting and relevant if it offers new data and information (which it doesn't) or presents a claim made by someone speaking from a significant enough place of authority on the subject matter to have some valuable insight on the information we already have (which one solo 55 years out of the loop isn't). So, this thread is an extremely thin pretense to once again trot out the tired vague discussion of "the legal market isn't what it used to be." And I don't have the patience for that, although I'm sure everyone would welcome the opportunity to once again make vague and boring comments like "the investment has gotten substantially worse since his day."

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Re: On the future of law practice from an 80 y/o Partner:

Postby Bildungsroman » Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:24 pm

And the disconnect between this thread title and the content of the first post is transparent. The anonymous internet post by a guy who heard it from a guy doesn't address the future of legal practice at all.

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Re: On the future of law practice from an 80 y/o Partner:

Postby un-vordox » Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:27 pm

romothesavior wrote:Old person; DR.


MTal; DR

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Re: On the future of law practice from an 80 y/o Partner:

Postby romothesavior » Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:34 pm

Bildungsroman wrote: So, this thread is an extremely thin pretense to once again trot out the tired vague discussion of "the legal market isn't what it used to be."

No one said it wasn't. It's another thread with mtal being annoying as shit and adding nothing substantive. I'm not letting mtal or this old fart change the course I'm on. Like almost all of mtal's stuff, it lacks any and all nuance or perspective. It's just a blanket assertion. I agree it's a weak schtick.

Doesn't change the fact that the root of what the 80 year old bro is saying is true for most. Not sure how my conceding that "the investment has gotten substantially worse since his day" is a vague statement (boring, sure... most conversations on the legal market are), or even remotely controversial. So what are you all worked up about dude?

P.S. Also, if we are are blandly reminiscing on how things were much better back in the day, I'd like to just say that you used to be much funnier. Step your game up.

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Re: On the future of law practice from an 80 y/o Partner:

Postby perspective » Wed Dec 07, 2011 12:34 pm

My story from a recently retired founding partner at one of the largest labor firms in the Southeast:

Law today is much harder than it was when I graduated. Proportionally there are many times the number of attorneys fighting for the same amount of work. Education expenses are insanely inflated. The stress is greater than medical and business sectors with less pay. Only do it if you go to a top school.


FWIW, he recommended I go into dentistry. Average specialist salary of $350,000/year working 30 hours per week.

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Re: On the future of law practice from an 80 y/o Partner:

Postby Samara » Wed Dec 07, 2011 12:57 pm

perspective wrote:FWIW, he recommended I go into dentistry. Average specialist salary of $350,000/year working 30 hours per week.

I love it when people give advice like this. "What's that? You think I should switch to a profession with a completely different set of core competencies based on a article you read once about "average" salaries? Sure, sounds easy enough."

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Re: On the future of law practice from an 80 y/o Partner:

Postby WhiteGuy5 » Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:02 pm

MTal's obsession is mildly annoying at worst and occasionally, somewhat entertaining at best. What is always annoying, however, is the endless barrage of replies calling him an idiot--giving him attention and pushing the thread up. His threads always start out and end in identical fashion.




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