Character and Fitness Question

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Re: Character and Fitness Question

Postby c3pO4 » Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:33 pm

89vision wrote:
It means different things in different social groups. Maybe not the one you're from. I'm not saying it always means one thing, but it does within circles I have belonged to. I simply asked if that term meant what I thought it did, and explained that it means something different than the sn. You seriously can't deny that groups of people don't think bh means something other than what the persons sn is meant to state. I don't understand how you can say bh doesn't have multiple meanings. That's a horrid argument. You are, again, using a straw man. I don't know how many times I need to explain I never stated bh meant only what I thought it referenced. I only stated it had a different meaning to me based on my environment, associations, friends, cultural experience. I have never head bh used the way you guys have. Unlike you, I am not arguing it only means 1 thing. Stop using straw man arguments. Please.


nobody is this dumb... right?

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Re: Character and Fitness Question

Postby 89vision » Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:34 pm

c3pO4 wrote:
89vision wrote:
It means different things in different social groups. Maybe not the one you're from. I'm not saying it always means one thing, but it does within circles I have belonged to. I simply asked if that term meant what I thought it did, and explained that it means something different than the sn. You seriously can't deny that groups of people don't think bh means something other than what the persons sn is meant to state. I don't understand how you can say bh doesn't have multiple meanings. That's a horrid argument. You are, again, using a straw man. I don't know how many times I need to explain I never stated bh meant only what I thought it referenced. I only stated it had a different meaning to me based on my environment, associations, friends, cultural experience. I have never head bh used the way you guys have. Unlike you, I am not arguing it only means 1 thing. Stop using straw man arguments. Please.


nobody is this dumb... right?



Haha, I love how people are still responding! This is just too fun for me.

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Re: Character and Fitness Question

Postby Tom Joad » Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:39 pm

89vision, just speculation but gauging my your screen name does your C&F issue have something to do with an herb that is illegal?

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Re: Character and Fitness Question

Postby Bronte » Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:42 pm

89vision wrote:
TommyK wrote:I like how this thread bobs and weaves between being C&F-centric and making fun of 89. And btw, 89vision. I don't care if you're from the suburbs or the inner city or some random farming town. Blowhard has never meant what you think it means. It's like trying to argue that thumbtack is a thumb deformed into a point because you were able to break down the compound word into it's parts and justify it to yourself that it means that. Yes, words are socially constructed, but they're not individually constructed. There has to be some consensus that a word means x for it to mean x and you're the only crazy person that thinks blowhard is not somebody who boasts in an annoying fashion.


It means different things in different social groups. Maybe not the one you're from. I'm not saying it always means one thing, but it does within circles I have belonged to. I simply asked if that term meant what I thought it did, and explained that it means something different than the sn. You seriously can't deny that groups of people don't think bh means something other than what the persons sn is meant to state. I don't understand how you can say bh doesn't have multiple meanings. That's a horrid argument. You are, again, using a straw man. I don't know how many times I need to explain I never stated bh meant only what I thought it referenced. I only stated it had a different meaning to me based on my environment, associations, friends, cultural experience. I have never head bh used the way you guys have. Unlike you, I am not arguing it only means 1 thing. Stop using straw man arguments. Please.


You need to learn to admit defeat. No one's arguing against a straw man. You're arguing that blowhard has a meaning relating to blowjobs. We're arguing that it does not--not "where you're from" or anywhere. It's plausible that in your group of friends you gave it a special meaning, although you haven't explained what that meaning would be, beside using the word "blow" and "hard" separately as a phrase.

It's pretty clear what happened: You read the screen name. You were unfamiliar with the word "blowhard," which is somewhat of an outdated word. You thought it had something to do with blowjobs. You were wrong.

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Re: Character and Fitness Question

Postby 89vision » Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:47 pm

Tom Joad wrote:89vision, just speculation but gauging my your screen name does your C&F issue have something to do with an herb that is illegal?


No. I WISH the C&F were about weed. They were for oxy, coke, alcohol, and heroin. I basically quit after a crazy lucy experience. Since then it makes me depressed (which is why I find it interesting that you can get rx weed in med. mj. states for depression).

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Re: Character and Fitness Question

Postby 89vision » Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:56 pm

Bronte wrote:
89vision wrote:
TommyK wrote:I like how this thread bobs and weaves between being C&F-centric and making fun of 89. And btw, 89vision. I don't care if you're from the suburbs or the inner city or some random farming town. Blowhard has never meant what you think it means. It's like trying to argue that thumbtack is a thumb deformed into a point because you were able to break down the compound word into it's parts and justify it to yourself that it means that. Yes, words are socially constructed, but they're not individually constructed. There has to be some consensus that a word means x for it to mean x and you're the only crazy person that thinks blowhard is not somebody who boasts in an annoying fashion.


It means different things in different social groups. Maybe not the one you're from. I'm not saying it always means one thing, but it does within circles I have belonged to. I simply asked if that term meant what I thought it did, and explained that it means something different than the sn. You seriously can't deny that groups of people don't think bh means something other than what the persons sn is meant to state. I don't understand how you can say bh doesn't have multiple meanings. That's a horrid argument. You are, again, using a straw man. I don't know how many times I need to explain I never stated bh meant only what I thought it referenced. I only stated it had a different meaning to me based on my environment, associations, friends, cultural experience. I have never head bh used the way you guys have. Unlike you, I am not arguing it only means 1 thing. Stop using straw man arguments. Please.


You need to learn to admit defeat. No one's arguing against a straw man. You're arguing that blowhard has a meaning relating to blowjobs. We're arguing that it does not--not "where you're from" or anywhere. It's plausible that in your group of friends you gave it a special meaning, although you haven't explained what that meaning would be, beside using the word "blow" and "hard" separately as a phrase.

It's pretty clear what happened: You read the screen name. You were unfamiliar with the word "blowhard," which is somewhat of an outdated word. You thought it had something to do with blowjobs. You were wrong.


And what you just posted is a different account than what a lot of other people posted. It's funny how even an easy argument to make is made incorrectly. I find that entertaining.

I just wanted to see how long you guys would keep responding.

If you want an alternate definition, google some porn videos/sites/forums. Thought I could get someone to post a ridiculous link like that. If you end up in a crack house once or twice ot run into crack whores trying to make a quick buck on the corner, you may hear it phrased differently. I guess not too many people on hear have talked to prostitutes before or been in crack houses. Definitely a world apart from a law school.

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Re: Character and Fitness Question

Postby 03121202698008 » Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:12 pm

I love that my username has generated so much buzz. Apparently 89vision still hasn't figured out that even if her friends think "blow hard" is about bjs, that's two words and my sn is one word. Wow.

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Re: Character and Fitness Question

Postby Bronte » Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:14 pm

blowhard wrote:I love that my username has generated so much buzz. Apparently 89vision still hasn't figured out that even if her friends think "blow hard" is about bjs, that's two words and my sn is one word. Wow.


If you were from the affluent suburbs or had been to a crack house, you'd understand.

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Re: Character and Fitness Question

Postby 03121202698008 » Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:18 pm

Bronte wrote:
blowhard wrote:I love that my username has generated so much buzz. Apparently 89vision still hasn't figured out that even if her friends think "blow hard" is about bjs, that's two words and my sn is one word. Wow.


If you were from the affluent suburbs or had been to a crack house, you'd understand.


I've talked to a crackhead or two in my years as a cop. Even they would have gotten it. 89vision is spppeeeccciiiaaalll.

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Re: Character and Fitness Question

Postby 89vision » Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:42 pm

blowhard wrote:I love that my username has generated so much buzz. Apparently 89vision still hasn't figured out that even if her friends think "blow hard" is about bjs, that's two words and my sn is one word. Wow.


And you still haven't figured out that I just set multiple off on a bunch of ramblings about your name. You are the one who still takes the comments seriously. wow.

89vision is two different terms, but I'm not using a space.

And you are probably going to keep replying...this is getting even funnier.
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Re: Character and Fitness Question

Postby 03121202698008 » Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:44 pm

89vision wrote:
blowhard wrote:I love that my username has generated so much buzz. Apparently 89vision still hasn't figured out that even if her friends think "blow hard" is about bjs, that's two words and my sn is one word. Wow.


And you still haven't figured out that I just set multiple off on a bunch of ramblings about your name. You are the one who still takes the comments seriously. wow.

89vision is two words, two different terms, but I'm not using a space.

And you are probably going to keep replying...this is getting even funnier.


? I haven't replied in days. And actually, 89 is a number. HTH.

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Re: Character and Fitness Question

Postby Bronte » Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:45 pm

89vision wrote:
blowhard wrote:I love that my username has generated so much buzz. Apparently 89vision still hasn't figured out that even if her friends think "blow hard" is about bjs, that's two words and my sn is one word. Wow.


And you still haven't figured out that I just set multiple off on a bunch of ramblings about your name. You are the one who still takes the comments seriously. wow.

89vision is two words, two different terms, but I'm not using a space.

And you are probably going to keep replying...this is getting even funnier.


Don't try to pretend you just pulled one over on us. You genuinely believed what you were saying and are now pretending you pulled one over on anyone.

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Re: Character and Fitness Question

Postby 89vision » Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:48 pm

blowhard wrote:
Bronte wrote:
blowhard wrote:I love that my username has generated so much buzz. Apparently 89vision still hasn't figured out that even if her friends think "blow hard" is about bjs, that's two words and my sn is one word. Wow.


If you were from the affluent suburbs or had been to a crack house, you'd understand.


I've talked to a crackhead or two in my years as a cop. Even they would have gotten it. 89vision is spppeeeccciiiaaalll.


How old were they, and when did you talk to them? I've never heard blowhard in my life. Why are you getting so snippy? Forget your midol? Was that comment directed to you?

And you are probably going to reply to this, too. I want to see how long I can keep you going. It's getting funny. Especially since I already posted I kept replying just to see how many people would keep responding, and what did you do? You responded. Two more times. Wow. You really do blow hard, er, I mean you are a blowhard.

Oh wait, you replied a third time! I said two terms! I guess you were you like talking more than reading!


No, I didn't mean what I said. It's like you saying the replies to my post were genuine. They were almost exclusively straw man arguments. Meaning either people were also just seeing how far this would go, or they are horrible at making arguments. I don't think we've ever met, so how could you make a judgement on the seriousness of my comments (and...I bet you'll respond to that).

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Re: Character and Fitness Question

Postby 89vision » Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:50 pm

"The blow job's she blow hard like a nintendo cartridge"

-J. Cole

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Re: Character and Fitness Question

Postby 03121202698008 » Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:51 pm

89vision wrote:
blowhard wrote:
Bronte wrote:
blowhard wrote:I love that my username has generated so much buzz. Apparently 89vision still hasn't figured out that even if her friends think "blow hard" is about bjs, that's two words and my sn is one word. Wow.


If you were from the affluent suburbs or had been to a crack house, you'd understand.


I've talked to a crackhead or two in my years as a cop. Even they would have gotten it. 89vision is spppeeeccciiiaaalll.


How old were they, and when did you talk to them? I've never heard blowhard in my life. Why are you getting so snippy? Forget your midol? Was that comment directed to you?

And you are probably going to reply to this, too. I want to see how long I can keep you going. It's getting funny. Especially since I already posted I kept replying just to see how many people would keep responding, and what did you do? You responded. Two more times. Wow. You really do blow hard, er, I mean you are a blowhard.

Oh wait, you replied a third time! I said two terms! I guess you were you like talking more than reading!


No, I didn't mean what I said. It's like you saying the replies to my post were genuine. They were almost exclusively straw man arguments. Meaning either people were also just seeing how far this would go, or they are horrible at making arguments. I don't think we've ever met, so how could you make a judgement on the seriousness of my comments (and...I bet you'll respond to that).


How long until you realize you're not the one egging us on...we're seeing how many times you make yourself look like an idiot. You also need to learn what the hell a strawman is...because no one has used one yet. Go back to studying for the LSAT.

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Re: Character and Fitness Question

Postby 89vision » Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:53 pm

Says the guys who said 89vision isn't two words when I said they were two terms...

Ya, your comments are credible.

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Re: Character and Fitness Question

Postby 03121202698008 » Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:54 pm

89vision wrote:Says the guys who said 89vision isn't two words when I said they were two terms...

Ya, your comments are credible.


89vision wrote:
And you still haven't figured out that I just set multiple off on a bunch of ramblings about your name. You are the one who still takes the comments seriously. wow.

89vision is two words, two different terms, but I'm not using a space.

And you are probably going to keep replying...this is getting even funnier.


HTH

Nor are they two terms.

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Re: Character and Fitness Question

Postby 89vision » Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:03 pm

blowhard wrote:
89vision wrote:Says the guys who said 89vision isn't two words when I said they were two terms...

Ya, your comments are credible.


89vision wrote:
And you still haven't figured out that I just set multiple off on a bunch of ramblings about your name. You are the one who still takes the comments seriously. wow.

89vision is two words, two different terms, but I'm not using a space.

And you are probably going to keep replying...this is getting even funnier.


HTH



I said I wrote two terms. I did. What's the argument? A lot of people don't put spaces between terms. I didn't, nor have I in any of my email accounts or anything. Are you saying that people should always assume that if there isn't a spacebetweenwordsthanit'soneword?

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Re: Character and Fitness Question

Postby 20121109 » Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:04 pm

Uhhh...can we please get this back to Character & Fitness? Not semantics?

Seems like a stupid reason to lock this thread

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Re: Character and Fitness Question

Postby 03121202698008 » Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:05 pm

89vision wrote:
blowhard wrote:
89vision wrote:Says the guys who said 89vision isn't two words when I said they were two terms...

Ya, your comments are credible.


89vision wrote:
And you still haven't figured out that I just set multiple off on a bunch of ramblings about your name. You are the one who still takes the comments seriously. wow.

89vision is two words, two different terms, but I'm not using a space.

And you are probably going to keep replying...this is getting even funnier.


HTH



I said I wrote two terms. I did. What's the argument? A lot of people don't put spaces between terms. I didn't, nor have I in any of my email accounts or anything. Are you saying that people should always assume that if there isn't a spacebetweenwordsthanit'soneword?


Terms and words are not synonymous. Some words are terms. Sometimes a group of words is a term as it appears you are claiming "89 vision" is. But, importantly not all words are terms.

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Re: Character and Fitness Question

Postby 03121202698008 » Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:06 pm

GAIAtheCHEERLEADER wrote:Uhhh...can we please get this back to Character & Fitness? Not semantics?

Seems like a stupid reason to lock this thread


There hasn't been any character & fitness in days...maybe weeks.

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Re: Character and Fitness Question

Postby 20121109 » Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:07 pm

blowhard wrote:
GAIAtheCHEERLEADER wrote:Uhhh...can we please get this back to Character & Fitness? Not semantics?

Seems like a stupid reason to lock this thread


There hasn't been any character & fitness in days...maybe weeks.

I dk why but I loled.

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Re: Character and Fitness Question

Postby c3pO4 » Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:42 pm

i mean, 89 basically admitted his only goal here was trolling. don't we have rules here?

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Re: Character and Fitness Question

Postby Bronte » Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:15 am

c3pO4 wrote:i mean, 89 basically admitted his only goal here was trolling. don't we have rules here?


No one actually believes he was trolling though.




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